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ClaimMaster

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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7455 on: 08-02-18 at 04:07 pm »

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Hi All, Just got notified by USAJOBS that Patent Examiner jobs have opened at the GS-15 level. Is there any sense in me applying for these if I am a registered patent agent but with no real experience in drafting patents or any other IP-related jobs? I have been working as an engineer these past 15 years or so. Thanks.
Are you looking at this position?

PATENT EXAMINER (Chemical, Mechanical, or Electrical) - "Incumbents will be assigned to an art unit which will primarily examine applications filed by pro se applicants in the chemical, electrical, and mechanical disciplines. These applications often pose difficult legal and procedural problems arising from applicants' lack of familiarity with USPTO processes and procedures, lack of legal expertise, and limited resources. The prosecution history of these applications may be complex and extended prosecution history of these applications, and requires detailed analysis in each application to identify appropriate next steps in examination. Incumbents may participate in a variety of activities including: providing assistance to individual applicants through frequent interviews; responding to telephonic inquiries; development of training materials for examiners and prose applicants; participation in outreach events directed at small and independent inventors; and identification of best practices and process improvements."

If so, then no.  If you look at the detailed job description, they are looking only for the Primary Examiners: "SELECTIVE PLACEMENT FACTOR: Selectee MUST have Full Signatory Authority." 
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7456 on: 08-02-18 at 06:24 pm »

It's also internal only
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7457 on: 08-02-18 at 06:34 pm »

It's also internal only
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It will also likely be filled by one of the handful of people that are working the pro-se detail right now.  That was their goal last year - have some people work in the pro-se art unit on detail, then hire a full-time person.  The detail is kind of like an extended job interview with no guarantees.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7458 on: 08-02-18 at 07:02 pm »

Thanks, all.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7459 on: 08-02-18 at 07:26 pm »

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It will also likely be filled by one of the handful of people that are working the pro-se detail right now.  That was their goal last year - have some people work in the pro-se art unit on detail, then hire a full-time person.  The detail is kind of like an extended job interview with no guarantees.

Is the PTO required to post ALL job openings to USAJobs, even if these opportunities are only open to a small, select group of internal employees (they probably know of this opening anyways through internal channels)? This job post seems like a mere formality.  Or do the current Examiners actually search USAJobs for other opportunities (e.g., details, etc.) in the PTO?
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7460 on: 08-02-18 at 07:45 pm »

I'm under the impression all competitive service positions must be posted to usajobs
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7461 on: 08-02-18 at 08:51 pm »

Yep, they are all posted to USAJobs but are written in such a way that only current examiners are eligible.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7462 on: 08-11-18 at 01:03 am »

Does anyone know how to go about doing the transfer from one art unit to another ?   Should you first try to figure out if the AU you want to transfer to is hiring or what their backlog is ? 
Should you talk to your SPE first or is there someone else you should talk to initially ?

Thanks very much.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7463 on: 08-12-18 at 11:31 am »

Does anyone know how to go about doing the transfer from one art unit to another ?   Should you first try to figure out if the AU you want to transfer to is hiring or what their backlog is ? 
Should you talk to your SPE first or is there someone else you should talk to initially ?

Thanks very much.

"Procedures for requesting a change in art unit were established in an Memorandum dated October 22, 2010"
http://www.popa.org/about/advocacy/transfers-of-examiners-to-another-art-unit/

October 22, 2010 Memorandum
http://www.popa.org/static/media/uploads/uploads/Procedures_for_Considering_Transfers_of_Examiners.pdf
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