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johnthatcher

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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7395 on: 05-08-18 at 11:26 pm »

Is living in Southeast D.C. a good idea in terms of safety, demographics, work commute to uspto, and other factors ?

Depends on which part of Southeast DC you're living in.  West of the Anacostia is going to be fine.  East of the Anacostia is not ideal.

Though regardless of which part, if you live there and are going to take Metro to work, it requires a transfer, as you won't be living on a line that directly serves the USPTO.  And then you'll get to deal with the summer long Yellow/Blue line shutdown happening in summer of 2019 if you're still at the PTO by then.  Driving most places around here during rush hour is not really great, either.

In light of what you said, is it better to stay somewhere closer (within 3 to 4 miles) and drive to PTO as opposed to taking a metro ?
Thanks.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7396 on: 05-09-18 at 12:20 pm »

better to liver closer AND take the metro

Pentagon City/Crystal City would be my choices.  I lived in a $1250 studio when I lived in Pentagon City, and parking was included.  Started off by taking the metro, then was almost exclusively biking to work (save for thunderstoms and snow), then drove a bit later on.  Door to door was ~35 minutes on metro, and i had a 10 minute walk from the metro station.  ~25 min on my bike and 20 min driving (without traffic).
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7397 on: 05-09-18 at 05:27 pm »

Pentagon City/Crystal City

I agree. Good metro access, generally affordable, nice area, close to DC.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7398 on: 05-09-18 at 06:06 pm »

Does anyone here work in the Dallas office?  I have similar questions about commuting/parking/building facilities.
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dablueman

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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7399 on: 06-04-18 at 12:48 am »

Pentagon City/Crystal City

I agree. Good metro access, generally affordable, nice area, close to DC.

Just so people know, the metro will be closed in Northern Virginia all next summer (2019). I would consider that before picking where to live. The way I picked where to live when I first moved here many years ago is that I drove west, south, and north of the patent office for 20 minutes during rush hours. I then looked at a map of apartment complex within that area and went to as many as I could.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/traffic/transit/Metro-to-Close-6-Stations-in-Northern-Virginia-for-All-of-Summer-2019-481940951.html
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7400 on: 06-04-18 at 04:31 am »

Thanks for the good info. They are apparently working on lots of metro stations in the coming years. For example,

"The remaining 13 station platforms to be reconstructed in 2020-2021 include West Hyattsville, College Park, Greenbelt, Rhode Island Avenue, Vienna, Dunn Loring, West Falls Church, East Falls Church, Cheverly, Landover, New Carrollton, Addison Road, and Arlington Cemetery."

I think picking where you live is very important, and you should consider your long term goals when doing so. For example, if you want to go to law school eventually, you might consider living near the school you want to attend (i.e. Rosslyn if you want to go to Mason).

A lot of people lived and worked in Crystal City when the Patent Office was located there, and I find they generally consider those to have been relatively good days.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7401 on: 06-04-18 at 08:11 am »

One alternative to Metro is VRE (Virginia Railway Express). It's a commuter rail service that uses the Amtrak station right next to the King Street Metro. Easy walking distance to USPTO.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7402 on: 06-06-18 at 03:35 pm »

You should also consider where you want to spend time after work, especially if you are single and just moving to the area.  Some of the places closer to the PTO in VA are fairly isolated/quiet in the evenings and over the weekends.  Rosslyn/Arlington offer a decent compromise between a reasonable commute and being close to DC.
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« Reply #7403 on: 06-06-18 at 07:04 pm »

The area around the PTO pretty much dies down after 10/11ish, even on the weekends.  It's also quite expensive.  Although Crystal and Pentagon City are convenient and relatively affordable, there isn't much to do on the weekends because most people commute into these areas for work and then leave.  Arlington/Rosslyn/Ballston have lots going on, but you have to switch metro lines to get to the PTO and it is more expensive.

I've known people who commuted from Adams Morgan just to have a better social life. 
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7404 on: 06-06-18 at 09:41 pm »

I've known people who commuted from Adams Morgan just to have a better social life.

Yeah, I lived in Dupont Circle when I started. The commute was not great but it was fine. I could walk to the red line and then I'd have to transfer, or I could take a longer walk to Farragut West and be on the blue line already. No big deal when the weather's nice.
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ConfusedIP

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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7405 on: 06-06-18 at 11:11 pm »

I've done both (i) living in NOVA->commuting to DC for a job and (ii) living in DC (Adams Morgan)->commuting to the old PTO Office in Crystal City.  I enjoyed the 2nd option much better.  I'm mostly an introvert (probably like many Examiners, given the job requirements), so getting out to the 'happening' part of town took some effort from suburbs and sometime it just didn't happen at all.  I found it much easier to socialize when I lived directly in the center of the city.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #7406 on: 06-12-18 at 05:33 pm »

The area around the PTO pretty much dies down after 10/11ish, even on the weekends.  It's also quite expensive.  Although Crystal and Pentagon City are convenient and relatively affordable, there isn't much to do on the weekends because most people commute into these areas for work and then leave.  Arlington/Rosslyn/Ballston have lots going on, but you have to switch metro lines to get to the PTO and it is more expensive.

I've known people who commuted from Adams Morgan just to have a better social life.

As for the PTO region, that which is already dead cannot die lol.

If you’re into more action but new, say gs-7 or gs-9, I think Crystal City area is a good spot, considering you must come into work.  Work will be 5 days a week, and the weekend is only 2.  I lived mostly in Clarendon but was in Alexandria for a year and it was fine.  Taking the metro (or an Uber) drunk to Arlington or DC is much less of a drag :)

If you want more action in general the Courthouse/Clarendon area is best.  Rosslyn is mostly a business and residental district.

If you’re in TEAPP I’d gtfo while you still can (it’ll prob stay for good, but if it doesnt id at least think they’d “grandfather” current participants).

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