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 41 
 on: 02-16-18 at 01:59 pm 
Started by oxfordrama - Last post by oxfordrama
Lesson #1:  Don't look down your nose at any area of practice.  Most definitely not in a job interview.  Not even on the internet.  Somebody who makes their living doing what you consider beneath you might take offense.
There has been a big misunderstanding. I'm beneath prosecution. It's outside my natural skillset. I don't like engineers because I can't fit in with them. I respect them.

 42 
 on: 02-16-18 at 12:45 pm 
Started by oxfordrama - Last post by fewyearsin
Lesson #1:  Don't look down your nose at any area of practice.  Most definitely not in a job interview.  Not even on the internet.  Somebody who makes their living doing what you consider beneath you might take offense.
Yeah, this, definitely.  Even if you get the exact job you want as a patent litigator right out of law school, you will be doing all the work that the more senior attorneys don't want to do.  And why don't they want to do them?  Because they suck/are boring/can't bill much.  So you get to "pay your dues" for several years.  This is true of just about all law areas.  I still remember the first time I was able to give a crappy file away to a new associate.  At first they appreciate it because they need work, then they figure out pretty quickly that the only reason people give them work is because they don't want to do it.

 43 
 on: 02-16-18 at 12:22 pm 
Started by oxfordrama - Last post by ThomasPaine
Lesson #1:  Don't look down your nose at any area of practice.  Most definitely not in a job interview.  Not even on the internet.  Somebody who makes their living doing what you consider beneath you might take offense.

 44 
 on: 02-16-18 at 12:02 pm 
Started by JTripodo - Last post by two banks of four
Along those lines, I wouldn't be opposed to them just giving me the amount of money they are putting towards my FERS annuity.  But instead of that, they are offering 3%.  Three measley percent.  They contribute something like 12%, and they want to replace it with 3%.  Of course, that money in my hands would hopefully be safer than the money staying with them and a "promise" of a later annuity, but still.
Additionally ....

"Receive a lump-sum benefit payment equal to 75 percent of the present value of accrued FERS benefits"
https://www.fedsmith.com/2018/02/09/changes-federal-employees-coming-workplace/

So, 75% * avg of high 3 * accrual rate of 1% per year * years of service * (actuarial life expectancy - eligible retirement age)

So, if my math is right, then maybe a $250,000 - $350,000 pension buyout for a mid-career employee.

If they eliminate the FERS COLA, then I will have to do some serious thinking about the above.

although the actual benefit is worth more than that.  Though it's not as if we get a say in how it's bargained...

also, even if they do give a better buyout, it better not be taxed.  You just know that some will want to twist a knife there.  I'd be fine if it goes in as a super TSP contribution.

 45 
 on: 02-16-18 at 10:37 am 
Started by oxfordrama - Last post by oxfordrama
TP has his place. I donít want to feel comfortable. And Iím naive as hell, but I canít apologize for that. Itís just where Iím at. Everything big law is abstract for me. Are there good chances of getting paid legal work 1L summer?

 46 
 on: 02-16-18 at 10:22 am 
Started by oxfordrama - Last post by ThomasPaine
It's just a difference in opinion.  You found OP to be "earnest."  I found OP to be an insufferable little twat with 'em's, "I wanna make a lotta money doing patent litigation.  I dont wanna do any of that yucky patent prosecution.  Work with engineers?  Ewww!  Gross!"

If OP is lucky enough to actually get a job OP is gonna meet people like you.  And people like me.  I can't understand why you think OP should not learn that life lesson just because OP is on the interwebz with OP's "earnest" question. 

 47 
 on: 02-16-18 at 08:28 am 
Started by kokes - Last post by kokes
I was told otherwise at the patent office. They told me I had one year to gather resources to patent in countries of my choice. I actually made a live version of the algorithm so that anyone can try it out. This in not wise, I was told wrong?

 48 
 on: 02-16-18 at 04:06 am 
Started by JTripodo - Last post by steelie
Along those lines, I wouldn't be opposed to them just giving me the amount of money they are putting towards my FERS annuity.  But instead of that, they are offering 3%.  Three measley percent.  They contribute something like 12%, and they want to replace it with 3%.  Of course, that money in my hands would hopefully be safer than the money staying with them and a "promise" of a later annuity, but still.
Additionally ....

"Receive a lump-sum benefit payment equal to 75 percent of the present value of accrued FERS benefits"
https://www.fedsmith.com/2018/02/09/changes-federal-employees-coming-workplace/

So, 75% * avg of high 3 * accrual rate of 1% per year * years of service * (actuarial life expectancy - eligible retirement age)

So, if my math is right, then maybe a $250,000 - $350,000 pension buyout for a mid-career employee.

If they eliminate the FERS COLA, then I will have to do some serious thinking about the above.

 49 
 on: 02-15-18 at 08:15 pm 
Started by oxfordrama - Last post by Tobmapsatonmi
I have a feeling somebody's got an entire case full of participation trophies.

Good for you.


Alas, nary a one of those, and too few of the earned flavor as well.

But going with your analogy, there's a range of possible responses to a new, inexperienced player ranging from handing out that undeserved trophy (on a first end of the range), to yelling at them to pull their head out of their rectum after their first at bat (on the second end).

From appearances, you sometimes seem to prefer the second end of this range.  Occasional indigestion?  I dunno, but I prefer to start off more toward the middle of the range.

 50 
 on: 02-15-18 at 06:34 pm 
Started by JTripodo - Last post by fewyearsin

Changing the pension output for people mid career (if it comes to that) is just a shitty bait and switch. They might as well claw back all the TSP matching contributions they've made too. I realize that this is often just how it is these days, but I don't have to be happy about the possibility.

is that more or less shitty than what the feds will probably do to us who have paid into social security for 20, 30 years, by changing social security benefits based on our wealth and income?
It's pretty much the same - take away an earned benefit because it is not yet in your hands.

Along those lines, I wouldn't be opposed to them just giving me the amount of money they are putting towards my FERS annuity.  But instead of that, they are offering 3%.  Three measley percent.  They contribute something like 12%, and they want to replace it with 3%.  Of course, that money in my hands would hopefully be safer than the money staying with them and a "promise" of a later annuity, but still.

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