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Patent Filing and Prosecution / Provisional Rights
« on: 02-29-12 at 11:07 am »
35 USC 154(d) states that provisional rights are available under 154(d) for issued patent claims which are substantially identical to claims in a "publication of the application for such patent" so long as several conditions are met (e.g. actual notice).

What about the case where the relevant claim issues in a continuation or divisional application and is substantially identical to a claim in the published parent application? In other words, can the the relevant claim be in an earlier published application that is an ancestor of the application that issued with the relevant claim?

The statute would seem to preclude that possibility, but I've seen several journal articles suggesting that the period can begin from publicaiton of an ancentor application and several recent complaints have used this approach.

I haven't found any relevant legal authority though.  Thoughts?

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Hi,

We have the following situation which I hadn't previously encountered and cannot find a solid answer after much searching:

Application 1 is a nonprovisional with inventors A, B and C.

Application 2 is filed as a continuation of Application 1 (which has since issued as a patent), originally with the same claims as Application 1.  Applicants subsequently filed a preliminary amendment canceling all claims and replacing them with a single new claim.  As a result of the claim cancelations, inventors A, B and C are no longer inventors and were removed by petition.  A new inventor, inventor D, is added as he is the only inventor of the subject matter now claimed in Application 2.

Seems to me the priority claim is no longer valid since, as a result of the amendment, there are no longer any overlapping inventors with Application 1.  The only thing I was able to find in the MPEP is a narrow exception where Application 1 lists inventors A, B and C, but during prosecution a restriction requirement is issued and the Applicant elects an invention of which only inventors B and C are properly listed (inventor A is removed), and a divisional is then filed with invention 2, the inventor of which is only inventor A.  In this case, priority is maintained despite the parent and divisional having no inventors in common as the result of a restriction requirement.  On the other hand, the MPEP does warn that removing inventors may affect the priority claim...

So, my take on this is that the parent application needs to be filed with claims covering all the subject matter in the application.  That way, you are sure to be able to meet the 120 requirements for overlapping inventors for any continuing or divisional application filed off THAT parent application.  However, if, for whatever reason, you file a first divisional/continuation listing only a subset of the inventors originally listed on the parent, you would NOT be able to file a divisional/continuation off the first divisional unless there is at least one inventor in common with those listed on the first divisional (if not, the second divisional would have to be filed directly off the parent).

Any thoughts?

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Haven't looked at this in a while and I'm a bit rusty.

Say you file a US Provisional application, then file a PCT application with same subject matter 1 year later claiming priority to the provisional.

Is it possible to expressly abandon the PCT prior to publication (assuming it is even possible to expressly abandon a PCT application) and then refile a new PCT application with the same subject matter within one year of the filing date of the original PCT and claim priority to the original PCT?

I would guess that the answer is no due to Article 4, Section C (4) which requires that, in order for a subsequent application (here the 1st PCT) concerning the same subject matter as a previous first application (here the provisional) to be considered the first application for the purpose of Paris Convention priority, that the first application has to (i) have been withdrawn (or abandoned, refused), (ii) not published, and (iii) must not have served as the basis for claiming priority.

In this hypothetical, it seems that it would not be possible to file a 2nd PCT (within one year of filing the 1st PCT) that claims priority to the 1st PCT because the first application (the provisional) already served as the basis for priority of the 1st PCT.

Can anyone confirm?

Thanks

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Any biotech people in the house?  Appreciate any help in confirming and answering the following:

1. To get a filing date for a nonprovisional, you need only file a specification, claims and drawings if required - it's my understanding that a sequence listing isn't technically considered part of the "specification" and therefore you don't need to file a formal sequence listing to get a filing date.  Rather, you will get a Notice to File Missing Parts requiring that the formal Sequence Listing be filed within a month. 

2. For a continuation or divisional, the sequence listing does not carry over from the parent - you either have to file a new sequence listing or a request that the sequence listing be transferred from the parent to the continuing application

3. You don't have to list sequences in the specification - you can simply refer to them by SEQ ID Number and file a sequence listing with the actual sequences.

So, if you have listed all the sequences in the specification (e.g. in figures) and then file the specification (and claims and drawings) but do not file a sequence listing, you'll get a NOtice to file missing parts and you can file the sequence listing at that point with no issue.

HOWEVER, if you ONLY refer to SEQ ID Nos in the specification and then file the specification (and claims and drawings if necessary) you'll get a Notice to File missing parts but if you try to file the Sequence Listing at that point, that would ahve to be considered new matter, so you'd get a filing date, but would not be able to supplement the application with the sequences and would therefore have to refile (and lose the original filing date).

Can anyone confirm this?

If the above is correct, it would seem to be good practice to include sequences in the specification itself, but this isn't always possible or practical.  I've definitely come across a lot of applications which only contain the actual sequence in teh sequence listing.

Thanks

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Background - a first (parent) application was filed with inventors A, B and C who assigned to Corp 1.  While the first application was pending and before it published, a second (CIP) application was filed with inventors A, B, and C who assigned to Corp 1 and inventor D who assigned to Corp 2.

The Examiner issues a nonstatutory double patenting rejection in the second (CIP) application over several claims of the first (parent) application, which I believe can be overcome by having Corp 2 assign the invention to Corp 1 so that the parent and CIP applications are commonly owned and filing a terminal disclaimer.

Now suppose the Examiner issues a 102(e)/103 rejection of the CIP claims over the parent application?  If the claims of the CIP are not supported by the parent application (and the Examiner's rejection is therefore proper), this would seem to be a classic case where the rejection could not be overcome without amending the claims:  the 103(c) exception wouldn't apply because the applications weren't commonly owned at the time of the later invention; declaration under 1.131 cannot be used since the inventive entity of the parent application conceived first, etc.

But suppose we successfully make the argument that the subject matter of the CIP claims is supported by the parent and that we should therefore be entitled to the parent's filing date?  What implications arise from the fact that the parent and CIP applications list a different inventive entity?  Do 102(f) and 102(g) come into play? 

I guess the bottom line is that, although priority under 120 doesn't require identity of inventorship (simply at least one common inventor), I feel like there is something odd about asserting that the claims of a CIP are entitled to the filing date of a parent application listing a different inventive entity...

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Patent Filing and Prosecution / Terminal disclaimer dilemma
« on: 04-13-11 at 01:57 pm »
Background:  A CIP application has been rejected on the grounds of non-statutory double patenting over the parent application.  The parent application has 3 inventors who have all assigned to corporation A.  The CIP has the same 3 inventors plus another inventor.  The 3 common inventors assigned to corporation A.  The fourth inventor assigned to corporation B.

Problem - we cannot file a terminal disclaimer b/c the applications are not commonly owned.  Is there any reason we cannot have corporation B file an assignment to corporation A and then file a terminal disclaimer?

Does it matter whether the fourth inventor had an obligation to assign to corporation A at the time the invention was made?  I know that this is a requirement under 103(c) (requiring common ownership at the time the later invention was made") but I don't see any similar requirement for filing a terminal disclaimer.

THanks!
 

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Patent Filing and Prosecution / Tricky 102(e) question
« on: 02-11-11 at 11:10 am »
I'm a bit confused about the critical date for applying an issued US patent as a 102(e) reference, at least in the following scenario:

Assume the patent discloses and claims ABC and claims priority to an earlier provisional application disclosing AB.  Also assume that my application claims AB and has a filing date falling between the filing dates of the US patent and provisional. 

The language of 102(e) states that "A person shall be entitled to a patent unless the invention was described in ... (2) a patent granted on an application for patent by another filed in the US...". 

An application that a patent is granted on has been construed as the first US application to disclose the invention claimed in the patent.  In this hypothetical, the provisional does not disclose the invention claimed in the patent (ABC) since C was added subject matter in the nonprovisional which issued into the patent. 

HOWEVER, the disclosure used to reject my claims (AB) IS in the provisional application.

What happens here? 

Is the patent available as a 102(e) reference as of the provisional filing date since the subject matter relied on to reject my claims is found in both the patent and provisional?

Or is the patent only available as a 102(e) reference as of its own filing date since it cannot properly claim priority to the provisional?

In view of the fact that US application publications are also available as 102(e) references as of their earliest effective (US) filing dates, does it make sense to treat patents differently?

Thanks in advance!

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1. Say you filed a terminal dislaimer (to obviate a non-statutory obviousness-type double patenting rejection) during prosecution of application B against patent A.  Application B subsequently issues into patent B.  According to the TD, the term of patent B cannot extend beyond the expiration date of patent A and the 2 patents must be commonly owned.  Side note - I frequently see it written (including in court decisions) that a TD means that patent B expires on the same day as patent A.  This is not necessarily the case - for example if B is a continuation/CIP of A and patent A has 100 days of PTA and patent B has 0, patent B will expire before patent A.

2. Now, say patent A becomes abandoned for failure to pay maintenance fees (or any of the other exculpatory conditions in the second part of the standard terminal disclaimer form occur for patent A).  What happens to patent B?  As far as I can tell, you treat patent B as if patent A had not lapsed.  In other words, patent B remains "in effect" but the term of patent B still cannot extend past that of patent A's had patent A not lapsed.  The relevant language is as follows: "the owner does not disclaim the terminal part of the term of any patent granted on the instant application that would extend to the expiration date of the full statutory term...of the prior patent...in the event that said prior patent later: expires for failure to pay a maintenance fee...."  Compare this to the language in the first section of the TD: "The owner [of] the instant application hereby disclaims, except as provided below, the terminal part of the statutory term of any patent granted on the instant applicaiton which would extend beyond the expiration date of the full statutory term of prior patent no...."

I keep seeing it written that if patent A lapses for failure to pay maintenance fees then the TD is no longer effective (i.e. the term of patent B can now extend past that of patent A's had it not lapsed).  However, the plain language in PTO/SB/26 seems to contradict that. 

Thoughts?

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Hi,

Just wondering how everyone deals with clerical errors by the USPTO arising from the process of scanning as-filed specifications for publication.  In other words, the case where a clerical error (e.g. misspellings) occur in the published application but are correct in the as-filed specification.

Whenever I've amended the specification during prosecution it has always been with reference to the as-filed specification.  I generally don't correct clerical errors that only occur in the published application.  However, assuming the application matures into a patent, I think it's safe to assume that these clerical errors will also appear in the published patent in which case they can easily be corrected by certificate of correction.

I guess my question is the following - does anyone correct clerical errors that occur only in the published application by amending the specification during examination?  Or do you wait until the patent issues and use a certificate of correction?

Thanks

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A restriction requirement was issued in a case with claims directed to novel compounds and their use in treating disease.

Compound claims were elected without traverse.

Call from the Examiner following response to non-final OA - the compound claims are allowable.  The Examiner asks if I would like to rejoin method of treatment claims. 

Two questions:
(1) Can claims be rejoined even if the election was made without traverse?  I don't see anything saying that they can't be and i realize that traverse is done in large part to preserve the right to petition the Examiner's final decision on the restriction requirement.  Also, I presume the Examiner has some discretion in this regard?
(2) Are there any benefits to pursuing the method of treatment claims in a divisional rather than rejoining them?  I ask because the method of use claims will be examined on the merits and could potentially face 112 rejections which could delay issuance of the patent and I also worry that the Examiner might come back later with a prior art rejection of the compound claims.

Thanks

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So, the PTO has been calculating PTA wrong all this time.  We're auditing our recently allowed applications and issued patents and the following question arose to which I haven't been able to find a solid answer:

For patents in which a terminal disclaimer (TD) was filed, is it safe to completely ignore the PTA?

The PTO calculates the PTA for all patents regardless of whether a TD was filed with the proviso that the PTA may be subject to terminal disclaimer. 

We know that the PTA can never extend the term of a patent with a TD beyond that of the patent referenced in the TD.

The question then, is whether the term of a patent with a TD and a PTA of 0 could expire before that of the patent referenced in the TD which is entitled to a PTA of say 100 days.

I guess, simply stated, the question is really whether the expiration date of a patent in which a TD was filed is the expiration date of the referenced patent + any PTA in the referenced patent or is the PTA of the referenced patent not considered?

In the latter case, the PTA of the patent in which the TD was filed could extend the term of the patent up to but not beyond the term of the referenced patent including the PTA of the referenced patent.

My understanding had always been that the PTA in the referenced patent is considered when calculating the expiration date of the patent in which the TD was filed (and therefore it's safe to completely ignore the PTA).  However, the following article seems to indicate that the PTA in the referenced patent is not considered: http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2006/10/patent_term_adj.html.  In particular, note the section on Terminal Disclaimers which states that: "A terminally-disclaimed patnet may, however, be eligible for PTA that does not extend its term beyond the earlier patent's expiration date.  This may happen, for example, if the earlier patent itself is entitled to PTA or some other form of patent term extension.  Suppose the earlier patent is entitled to 40 days PTA.  If the later patent accumulated a calculated 100 days of delay, it would be entitled to PTA for 40 of those days."

Thoughts?


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If a petition to correct a priority claim is filed for an application, listing several US provisional and nonprovisional applications not listed in the executed declaration, is there a need to file a substitute declaration listing these applications?  I suspect you should, but 37 CFR 1.63 only refers to the need to list "foreign applications" from which priority is claimed on the declaration.

Thanks

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Patent Bar Questions / The application process
« on: 11-11-09 at 12:54 pm »
I'm about to fill out the application to take the patent bar exam.

It's my understanding that once the application is submitted, the PTO will review it and, assuming everything is in order, I will receive notification that the application has been accepted.  This sets a 90 day period during which I must schedule and take the exam.

Is this correct?  If so, how long does the PTO generally take to provide notification of acceptance once a properly filled out application is submitted?

If I were to send the application by the end of this week, is there any possibility that I could take the exam by December 31?

Thanks

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Is there any way to get the PTO to consider references after you've paid the issue fee?

I suspect not.  According to CFR 1.97, once the issue fee is paid, the PTO won't consider references on an IDS.  So, it seems that reexamination is the only way to get references considered after the issue fee is paid.

Thanks in advance.

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I received a nonstatutory obviousness-type double patenting rejection based on claims of a patent that is not commonly assigned (i.e. it is assigned to a different entity than the assignee of the application I'm prosecuting).  The inventive entities are different as well, although there is a common inventor. 

I have never received one of these rejections where the applications/patents were not commonly assigned and was surprised to find out that the rejection is proper.

I guess there is no way to overcome this other than through argument/amendment?  Can't file a Terminal Disclaimer since not commonly assigned.

Thanks for any and all help/comments.

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