The Intellectual Property Forum

If this is the only job offer you guys have then I guess you have to do what you have to do but Examinerguy is right.  They are squeezing whatever production out of you without paying you.  GS-11, step 1, the patent office is basically taking advantage of you and the shitty job market.  Somebody starting as a Gs 9, step 1 will be making more than you after 6 months when they get an accelerated promotion.  And I doubt they are going to be giving out retention bonuses with this job market.

probably the art units that need electrical engineers and computer engineers

Did the webinar say how much experience the PTO is looking for?

Quote from: DogDayPM on 02-19-10 at 07:44 am

Quote from: EXAMInATOR_LUARO on 02-18-10 at 09:35 pm

Another thing the article doesn't touch is her arrogance.  My art unit has manhy phds and they are terrible.  they think way too much and worry about too many details. 

I'm sorry, but did you actually know this person? 

Your statements make you seem to be the type of person who takes a some examples and then with fine discriminatory prejudice maps those examples onto everyone in the category. 

So, you know some PhDs who are arrogant and who think too much?  So then this woman, as an MD, must be arrogant and think too much also?

Where do you come up with this stuff?

I did not know this person, but the facts are clear.  She was guilty of at least working from home without permission, if not actual fraud.  It has also been my experience that examiner's with too much education tend to over-think the job, have problems with their supervisors especially when the supers are less educated and often think they are above the rules that apply to the rest of us.  She was clearly one of these over-educated examiners. 

Some people can't handle the stress of the examiner job.  That's ok - they should quit. They should not commit widespread fraud against the government.  Maybe now you can get away with it under Obama -but this lady tried to do it under Bush.  That was back when America was fiscally responsible and she deserved to be punished for her fraud.  The jury obviously acquitted based on their sympathy for her without weighing the facts.

The PTO management is reasonable.  it does not punish people who have not committed crimes.  They do not prosecute people for failing to be good examiners - they just fire those people.  They only prosecute the criminals.  They are reasonable and right to do so. 

So what you are saying is unless somebody is part of the work from home program they should do all their work in the office.  And if an Examiner can finish the required amount of counts to meet their production in less than 40 hours a week because they have a PhD, MD, advanced degree or are just smarter than you then you think they should sit in their office surfing the web, doodling, reading the newspaper, sleeping, etc. until they have enough time on the clock because that would be fraud if they didn't have enough hours.  HA!  And you're going to tell me that you do this. 

JD only qualifies a person as a GS-09.

The PTO is not hiring in the forseeable future because of the budget problems. 

Getting rid of the tuition program is only the beginning.  Word out on the campus is that more cuts are coming.  For example, there is talk that the retention bonuses will be taken away and that overtime for examiners may be slashed.

All examiners if you are reading this START ALLOWING EVERYTHING so we can generate money from maintenance fees.