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Author Topic: 102 problems ?  (Read 854 times)

ChrisWhewell

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102 problems ?
« on: 08-24-08 at 07:18 pm »

As a PhD candidate in the physics department, you conceive a new laser system which employs crystalline novelonium as the lasing material, which provides a new form of coherent light that has peculiar effects on magnetic fields.  The only use for novelonium in the published literature was in providing light emitting diodes that provided a reasonably high efficiency but set no world records.

Two years later, after meeting Sally and fathering her child, you decide physics is not for you, and decide to become a patent illustrator, to feed your family.   Recalling tat the lawyer at Big Univ. had given you a written waiver of rights, which unequivocally states that Big Univ. has waived any ownership interest, you then think you want to seek a patent on your novelonium-based laser, but are concerned that the written disclosure you made to three PhD-level advisors in the Physics Dept. at the Big Univ. may constitute prohibitive prior art.   You consult with a patent attorney, who says she will find out, but it's been 10 weeks and she is on vacation now and you read where others are beginning to play around with novelonium, since Sigma has made commercial quantities for researchers available at a reasonable cost.   You search the records and policies of Big Univ. for a statement that disclosures to research committees are confidential, but can find none.  Finally, you hear from your cousin, an inventor with 47 patents to his name, that everyone in the world knows that disclosures made to PhD advising commitees are held in confidence, and that you have nothing to worry about, to go and mortgage your Volkswagen Rabbit and hire that attorney to write and file a spec.

Should you believe your cousin ?

Should you expect your attorney to be forced to file a Rule 1.56 disclosure including the written proposal you made to those three PhD's in the university's advising commitee to the patent office, thus potentially fatally harming your chances at a patent ?

 




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Re: 102 problems ?
« Reply #1 on: 08-24-08 at 08:48 pm »

Chris,
First, I would think the policy on confidentiality of BU is not determinative of whether or not your disclosure is a public disclosure.  It may well not be, but I, too, would want to research it some more.
What about a provisional (although I don't like them, I do file them sometimes)?
I've never faced the Rule 56 issue you raise, but if it's not a public disclosure, then it's not material to patentability, but I've not researched that either.  Have you checked Chisum?  How about Donner?
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Re: 102 problems ?
« Reply #2 on: 08-25-08 at 08:50 am »

Check out MPEP 2128.01.I.  There is conflicting case law concerning printed theses.  One that would have bearing:  (A reference will constitute a “printed publication” as long as a presumption is raised that the portion of the public concerned with the art would know of the invention even if accessibility is restricted to only this part of the public. But accessibility to applicant’s thesis was restricted to only three members of a graduate committee. There can be no presumption that those concerned with the art would have known of the invention in this case.).  In your case, your thesis was never even written.  But how do you know that a faculty member hasn't already publically blabbed about your idea?
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« Reply #3 on: 08-26-08 at 05:49 am »

Thanks a bunch guys, that really helped me out.   I hope I can return a favor someday.   I don't read these boards regularly at present, so feel free to search through my web page below for the "@" symbol to locate my email address should you ever believe bouncing something off me could help.

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Chris
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