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Author Topic: Wayback machines (prior art)  (Read 1201 times)

W

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Wayback machines (prior art)
« on: 10-05-04 at 09:33 pm »

I have a funny question (funny in the technical/law sense). I'm reviewing prior art, and I've come across some stuff that I may include (if I do not include, it will come up at a later date), but...but there is a question to the whether the site's dates are correct.

Using a wayback machine (web.archive.org), I'm reviewing the site. But there's something odd about it. The wayback machine took a snapshot on January 21st, but the snapshot site's dates say that the material was added in February and March (same year). Now, I'm all for time travel, but this doesn't add up. Either the author of the site purposely set his dates a few months ahead of the time of the snapshot or the wayback machine is bunk.

Since the examiners use wayback machines for checking references (there was a post up (I think Jim posted it) about fun with examiners and wayback machines), how can these results be trusted?

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« Last Edit: 10-05-04 at 09:34 pm by W »
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Ladislao Warcok

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Re: Wayback machines (prior art)
« Reply #1 on: 10-06-04 at 12:49 pm »

I've had a similar prob with some prior art that the examiner has cited. I dont know how reliable is this org site but one thing is for sure, all internet related material can be modified. Therefore, my question is how can any html document can be used as prior art when everybody knows that html pages can be easily modified. Thechnically is way more easy than you ppl might think.
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Re: Wayback machines (prior art)
« Reply #2 on: 10-06-04 at 03:53 pm »

The second question is a little different that the original poster's
inquiry.  The wayback machine is supposed to be snap shots of
the web with date stamps of when the shot was taken.  In that
way the problem with the dates on a web page not reflecting
when the page was edited are supposed to be taken care of.

If an archived page includes information suggesting that the
page was changed after its archive date, that is a problem.

As for the second question, any information used to reject can be
challenged.  A change log or other date is written on the web
page is just one piece of evidence.   Maybe it can be backed up
with the wayback machine.
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