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Author Topic: claim problem  (Read 1148 times)

agentmanny

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claim problem
« on: 09-11-07 at 08:54 pm »


lets say I have a band that connects to two points on the back of a pick up truck.   And the band, at its midpoint tows something.  I am trying to claim the band, however, I want to make sure that I cover multiple ends on the band.

a band with bifurcated ends, thus there would be four points to attach to four points on the back of the truck.  How can I do this with a dependent claim where the independent has a first connecting end and a second connecting end and a body.


Can I say

2. The apparatus of claim 1, wherein the ends of the band are a plurality, connecting to the truck


Thanks.
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pentazole

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Re: claim problem
« Reply #1 on: 09-12-07 at 12:06 pm »

a plurality of what?  plurality just means "more than one".  You can say a plurality of connection points (or whatever language you want to use for "connection points").  Or you can just say something along the lines of wherein the first connecting end, the second connecting end, or the first connecting end and the second connecting end comprise one or more connection points.  You will want to define "more" because you may get an indefiniteness on it.  So instead say 1 to 10 connection points or 1 to whatever.
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TataBoxInhibitor

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Re: claim problem
« Reply #2 on: 09-12-07 at 01:54 pm »

I am thinking of a simple strap with ends.  You would like to increase the connection points on that strap?  So, initially you have two, one and each end, and you may want 2 at each end, and/or 4 at least end.

It looks as though the "ends" are the plurality.  I do not have a problem with the way you have stated your claim, but I do not think I would choose "ends."  What does the "end" actually do?   Then name it.


If it was a connection point, there is nothing wrong with stating that "wherein the connection point is a plurality."

If you have a first and a second connection point in the independent claim, I still do not think there is anything wrong with stating "wherein the connection points are a plurality."

It indicates that there are connection points at each end, then the dependent would cover the increase in connection points.  

Regards,


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patent_type

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Re: claim problem
« Reply #3 on: 09-12-07 at 05:58 pm »

Each end comprises at least one connection point.

Each end comprises a plurality of connection points. (more narrow)

The band [or body] comprises at least one [or a plurality of] connection point. (now not limited to the ends)

At least one end is structured for connection to at least one corresponding connection point on a vehicle [gotta tweak this one depending on other language in your spec]

Wherein the first connecting end comprises a first bifurcated end and the second connecting end comprises a second bifurcated end. (a little more narrow)

means for connecting at least one end to a corresponding connection point. (careful with the means plus function language--don't try this at home)

A band of players configured to occasionally participate in a gridiron event, the band comprising at least one tight end and at least one split end, wherein at least one of the tight end and the split end comprises a plurality of connections, at least one connection owning a pick up truck into the bed of which the band is connected at one or more points associated with the tight end or the split end.  
« Last Edit: 09-12-07 at 06:00 pm by patent_type »
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TataBoxInhibitor

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Re: claim problem
« Reply #4 on: 09-13-07 at 10:36 am »

Quote
Each end comprises at least one connection point.

Each end comprises a plurality of connection points. (more narrow)

The band [or body] comprises at least one [or a plurality of] connection point. (now not limited to the ends)

At least one end is structured for connection to at least one corresponding connection point on a vehicle [gotta tweak this one depending on other language in your spec]

Wherein the first connecting end comprises a first bifurcated end and the second connecting end comprises a second bifurcated end. (a little more narrow)

means for connecting at least one end to a corresponding connection point. (careful with the means plus function language--don't try this at home)

A band of players configured to occasionally participate in a gridiron event, the band comprising at least one tight end and at least one split end, wherein at least one of the tight end and the split end comprises a plurality of connections, at least one connection owning a pick up truck into the bed of which the band is connected at one or more points associated with the tight end or the split end.  


Those are good suggestions.   Is there a reason to limit the connection points to the ends?   I guess if you define ends in the spec a certain way, i.e. to include most of the body, you may not be limiting.

Regards,


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