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Author Topic: Non Final Office Action  (Read 1384 times)

Michelle Las

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Non Final Office Action
« on: 07-23-07 at 10:28 am »

Hello,
I have a intent to use application for a mark I am using on my e-commerce web site. I received a non-final action letter stating it is similarly confusing with another mark. I don't agree and think I have a good case to argue. My question however is how do I do this properly. Although, I would prefer to hire a pro, I can not afford it right now, and the reply is due in September 17th. Aside from the USPTO what are some other reliable recourses I can use in my research, and possible see samples of replies for similar situations.

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Michelle
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Re: Non Final Office Action
« Reply #1 on: 07-23-07 at 02:58 pm »

Michelle -

Why did you file an ITU if you're using the mark on your site?

As for samples, you'll have to look through TDR files application by application until you find a sample.  Search for marks with a serial number greater than some somewhat recent application and click on the TDR button on the detail screen.  Eventually you'll come across one that has a response to a 2(d) refusal.

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Re: Non Final Office Action
« Reply #2 on: 07-24-07 at 12:10 am »

Hi Jeff,

Thanks Jeff, I will have a look though the applications. I filed the ITU because it was before I actually launched the site; it is also the registered domain name of the company. The USPTO contends the words "got" and "sold" are interchangeable, therefore creates a likely hood of confusion. I don't agree because the definition of "got is to obtain or acquire whereas "sold" means to give up property in return for something else. (Got is used in my mark) The other thing I seen is a difference in the applications and the services and manner in which each company operates. I appreciate your help, I am new at this any other suggestions you may have are appreciated.  :)

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Michelle
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Re: Non Final Office Action
« Reply #3 on: 07-24-07 at 06:21 am »

Hi Michelle,

I am not an attorney but assist attorneys across the US in the processes and procedures of trademark prosecution before the USPTO and in foreign jurisdictions.

A 2(d) refusal is arguably the most difficult refusal to overcome, even for attorneys.  Usually, case law from similar refusals needs to be provided that will support your counter-arguments to successfully overcome the examiner's refusal.  Dictionary descriptions are NEVER enough or a good foundation for a response.

Attorneys and law firms usually have resources at their disposal, such as Westlaw, CT Corsearch, a McCarthy's subscription, that non-legal professionals cannot obtain or afford even if available to support their research.  Without those resources, and using only the hand searching suggested by Jeff, who is trying to be helpful in the manner you requested, your chances of locating those relevant cases and prevailing in a response are slim to none.  The phrase, "needle in a haystack" comes to mind, and once you begin trying to locate the cases in the TDR, you will understand what I am saying.

More importantly, and as a business owner myself, I understand that your brand is your business and therefore one of the single most important assets, if not THE most important asset, that must be protected - protected in a manner that isn't based solely on luck.

I also understand that your funds may be limited, but what is YOUR time worth?  If you were to spend a total of 6-24 hours searching for supportive case law, what would that be worth in lost sales revenues because you weren't out selling your products or services?  An attorney or their support staff might take an hour to amass the same results.  To go further, would you perform surgery on yourself after spending a few hours at a medical library because you felt the surgeon's fees are too high?  Of course not.

In addition, if you have based your decision not to use counsel only on a discussion with a single attorney, or worse, the perception that an attorney will be more expensive than you can afford rather than an actual quote, I urge you to talk to a qualified trademark attorney or additional attorneys regarding actual charges as you may be surprised.  Trademark prosecution is a federal practice so you may hire someone from any state in the union.  I would wager that it will be far wiser and cost effective to retain an attorney for this response than it will be to waste your own time and very probably risk losing the federal protection of your brand.

Good luck to you, whatever your decision.

Lyza
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Re: Non Final Office Action
« Reply #4 on: 07-24-07 at 12:10 pm »

Hi Liza,

 I appreciate you reply. I know it would be in my best interest to hire an attorney to do this but it is just not possible right now. I have talked to at least 4 attorneys and they range from $2500-$7000, I simply don't have it extra right now. My response is due soon (Sept 17th) so I don't have much choice but to try on my own, I guess it's better than not trying at all.  You mentioned you help attorneys in this kind of work. Would you be open to consulting me a little more on a one on one level? I can pay you something for your time, we would have to talk about it and see how much. If so PM me.

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Michelle
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Re: Non Final Office Action
« Reply #5 on: 07-26-07 at 12:23 pm »

Hi Michelle,

Unfortunately, and as a paralegal, I can only work for attorneys.  To assist a non-legal professional would be, for me, the unauthorized practice of law.

I'm very sorry and best of luck to you.

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Kathy A.

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Re: Non Final Office Action
« Reply #6 on: 08-15-07 at 09:54 am »

Jeff,

How long does it take to hear from the USPTO once the argument has been sent to them regarding a "non fianl action"?

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JSonnabend

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Re: Non Final Office Action
« Reply #7 on: 08-15-07 at 10:19 am »

That depends on the examiner and the nature of the office action and response.  It can range typically from a few days to a month or two.

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