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« on: 04-16-04 at 04:22 pm »

Say a pill currently available to the public has 10 different chemicals in it. It is not currently patented. If a company were to take those chemicals and put them into a beverage, would it be novel enough to be patentable? Would the pill be prior art that would prevent a patent?
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« Reply #1 on: 04-17-04 at 11:42 am »

Likely not.
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« Reply #2 on: 04-19-04 at 08:28 am »

My guess is that Mr. Auslander was answering your former question, not the latter.  I'd have to say that I agree with him.

The challenge here is that there's a significant body of patent law specific to chemical inventions and I'm not familiar with that body of law.  For example, what aspect of a claim specifies or doesn't specify whether the chemical components can be in an ionized solution (beverage) or a mixture (pill).  Does it make a difference?  I don't know.  

That's one of the reasons I say that a chemistry-based practice is a specialty all its own within the specialty of a patent practice.

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« Reply #3 on: 04-19-04 at 10:49 am »

Clark Boardman never put out of further edition of Chemical Inventions and Chemical Patents which I Co Authored years ago.
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« Reply #4 on: 10-08-09 at 05:48 am »

sir i want to say as per the knowledge i have acquired of patent law that a invention to patentable must bear three features novelty, inventive step and utility/industrial application. first criteria fulfilled as the beverage was not prior art. then come inventive step. there may be some problem in formulating the chemicals in a beverages form previously so, the invention may involve some inventive step. and third is utility/industrial application. so if the beverage is industrially applicable and has utility then its patentable.

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« Reply #5 on: 10-08-09 at 06:39 am »

Say a pill currently available to the public has 10 different chemicals in it. It is not currently patented. If a company were to take those chemicals and put them into a beverage, would it be novel enough to be patentable? Would the pill be prior art that would prevent a patent?

As with many things in IP law, "it depends."

1.  New uses for known compounds/formulations are patented all the time. 

2.  A compound in solution is often not of the same structure as the dry crystalline/amorphous form of the compound (goes to novelty.non-obviousness).  For example, the solvate of a compound could be a salt that has entirely different properties than the dry crystalline/amorphous form.  Various other aspects of solution chemistry can come into play as well, which are generally not a consideration in a dry formulation.

3.  The pH of the beverage solution could also have an impact on the structure and efficacy of the compounds (goes to novelty). 

4.  There could be disclosure in the prior art indicating that solvates of the compounds/formulation in question were unattainable (goes to non-obviousness).

5.  The formulation in solution/suspension could be  metabolized in an entirely different way than the dry form.  E.g., dry compositions can be compounded into an extended release formulation.  To my understanding, extended release is particularly difficult to obtain with a solution based formulation.

etc.

So as you can see, there are many factors that come into play when considering the patentability of a new form of an old formulation.  For more information on the topic, you might want to read the Pfizer v. Apotex (patentability of salts) and the Takeda v. Alphapharm (patentability of chemical compounds post KSR) decisions.
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« Reply #6 on: 10-09-09 at 03:48 pm »

Lets say the pill contains paracetamol, dihydrocodeinone, and a guiafanesin cmpd.  Lets say the beverage is goat's rue tea, galega officianalis.  The inventor crushes the pill and adds it to the galega and infuses for 20 mins.   It could be that the effect of the dihydrocodeinone on the cough center is intensified 4x by the effect of the galegine present in the goat's rue, which somehow increases membrane transport, with synergistic inhibition of cytochrome P450 for longer-term effect, or whatever.  If it were not previously known that aminoguanadines have an intensifying effect when combined with opioids, there may be a good chance to obtain a patent on the composition and especially if you have data to back it up.  The previous existence of the pill would have no bearing on patentability, but it would need to be cited in the IDS.  I hereby claim aminoguanadines in combination with opiate alkaloids.
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