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Author Topic: Improvement In Existing Product  (Read 2624 times)

aj

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Improvement In Existing Product
« on: 08-30-06 at 10:19 am »

I want to patent an improvement in an existing product that is already being sold.  

The Object of Invention:  The object, for example, is to automatically cover a chair with a new seat cover, let’s say a piece of cloth, every time someone sits on it.  In other words, it is a mechanism by which this function is completed automatically.

The original idea was patented in 1978.  The process was slow, and had many parts.  It expired in 1998.  Then at least three companies, to my knowledge, one I believe is the original company, got new patents on an improved version of the old idea.  The idea is still the same, to cover the chair automatically with a seat cover (just the sitting area).  The new products these three companies are now selling appear identical in operation and the result they produce.  I’m not sure how they were all able to get 3 separate patents for an identical product.  The new product is off course improved and works better.

When I saw this product, I knew right away that I could improve it.   My design produces the same results, automatically providing a new seat cover each time, but the mechanism and motor of my design is completely out of the way of the user, and it provides a lot more replacement covers.  For example, the existing products, all three of them, provide only about 25 or 30 replacements each of the cover before the cloth cover roll needs to be replaced.  In my model, I can easily house over 200 replacement covers.  

Do I have a shot at A: Getting a patent? And B: Being able to produce and sell my product.
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Re: Improvement In Existing Product
« Reply #1 on: 08-30-06 at 10:32 am »

Regarding question A, if your invention uses a different set of machine elements which are cooperatively-connected to one another in a way which is different than what is known in the prior art, and is not an obvious modification of the prior art, then I would say that your invention stands a very good chance of being patentable.

Regarding question B, this is a commercial question, which depends on your ability to deliver the device at a cost which the market will bear, or find attractive.  It also depends on contractual obligations others who use the current devices are bound to, which is but one form of "switching costs".   You need to make it economically-attractive for others who are current users of the technology to switch to using your invention.  It might also involve persuading non-users to adopt the use of the technology.

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Re: Improvement In Existing Product
« Reply #2 on: 08-30-06 at 11:49 am »

Let me add a note to Chris' response regarding QB.  If there are patents still in force which you would embody in your product, you may have potential infringement issues.
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Re: Improvement In Existing Product
« Reply #3 on: 08-30-06 at 12:07 pm »

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I’m not sure how they were all able to get 3 separate patents for an identical product.

A common misconception is that a product is tied to a single patent.  This is often not the case.
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« Reply #4 on: 08-30-06 at 02:00 pm »

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A common misconception is that a product is tied to a single patent.  This is often not the case.


It is often not even close to the case, at least when dealing with larger companies

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« Reply #5 on: 08-30-06 at 05:23 pm »

Thank you all for the useful information.  I gather, with machine and machenism differences I do have a chance at patent but I might run into infringement issues.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

Other than the fact that my product serves the same main purpose, for example, covering the seat with a cloth, it looks different, it operates different, and it cannot be sold alone.  In other words, these companies are selling the cloth seat cover dispensers for the chairs separately as a product that can fit any standard chair.  In my case the product can't be sold separately.  You have to buy a uinque chair from me and that is the only time you will get this product installed on it.   It cannot just work with any chair.   This means I'm not a threat to their market.  Their product is, for example, $100, my entire chair, with the product designed specifially for this chair, could cost a few hundred dollars.  

Does it improve my chances of getting the patent?
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Re: Improvement In Existing Product
« Reply #6 on: 09-20-06 at 02:45 am »

Yes very much,

From the detalied comparison it appears that your invention invloves novel concept, it is resulting in technological enhancement and improvement. furhter more being an automatic process your invention differs drastically from those mentioned by you.
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Re: Improvement In Existing Product
« Reply #7 on: 12-29-06 at 03:42 am »

I think your improvement seems to be better in terms of product operability and usability but need to be check for infringement issues. As you mentioned that three companies had already patented the improved versions, you need to check that any of the feature of your version do not infringe over the patented features. However, there is always a possibility of filing patent application for your invention provided that your disclosure is sufficient enough to meet the requirements of non-obviousness and novelty. All depends on your patent disclosure, your disclosed features should not look obvious improvement over the prior art and should highlight the merits over the prior known features.

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Re: Improvement In Existing Product
« Reply #8 on: 12-29-06 at 04:31 am »

I think your improvement seems to be better in terms of product operability and usability but need to be check for infringement issues. As you mentioned that three companies had already patented the improved versions, you need to check that any of the feature of your version do not infringe over the patented features. However, there is always a possibility of filing patent application for your invention provided that your disclosure is sufficient enough to meet the requirements of non-obviousness and novelty. All depends on your patent disclosure, your disclosed features should not look obvious improvement over the prior art and should highlight the merits over the prior known features.

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