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[marwan]

i have new idea to make 2 patents in one
like the TV&Radio

is it possible to do that?

there is a site called

http://www.file-reg.com/en/


i want to register my idea with them and then to sell it to any  
manufacture

do u advice me to do that?
please help me
thank u in advance :-/




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[Wiscagent]

The final paragraph of your posting appears to answer your question.

[marwan]

thank u for your help

but my question is

can i sell my idea after i register it in that web site?

[Wiscagent]

Marwan asked “can I sell my idea after i register it in that web site?”  

The trivial answer is: yes, if you can find a buyer.

The problem is that if all you do is send your idea in to some web site, it offers you no legal protection.  In most countries, just submitting your idea is likely to cause you to lose any potential patent rights you may have had; and in the United States you would have only one year to file a patent application or you would lose your potential rights.

Until your idea is legally protected – by patent or other means – it will be exceedingly difficult to sell.  In order to sell your idea you have to describe it to the potential buyer.  And once you have described it to the potential buyer, the potential buyer no longer has any reason to pay for the idea.

Of course if your idea demonstrates that you have a high level of expertise in a particular field, your potential customer may wish to hire you.  But that goes beyond just selling your idea.

You may wish to consult with a patent agent or a patent attorney to determine if your idea can be patented as an invention.  Alternatively or additionally perhaps you can start your own business, implementing your idea.

[JimIvey]

While Richard answered your question, I want to elaborate slightly.

can i sell my idea after i register it in that web site?

You can sell your idea after your register, before you register, and even if you don't register.  There is no requirement that any patent, trademark, or idea be registered with any service.  

The registration provided by that site is not required.  Whether it's helpful is another inquiry altogether and I'm not prepared to answer that.

Regards.

[Dirk Green]

I think there are a couple of major points being missed here.

First of all if the idea is registered with File-Reg.com then you have proof that can be used in a court of law should anyone else claim to have had the idea first. After all, in the US you have in regard to patents the 'First to invent' rule.

Second, yes you must apply for a patent within the first year of registration except you then can apply (in the US) for a provisional patent (roughly $160) which will give you 'another' year of protection. Before the provisional patent runs out - 1 year - you should then apply for a full patent.

The online registration method does give you an extra year to try and sell the idea or maybe develop it more.

[JimIvey]

I think there are a couple of major points being missed here.

First of all if the idea is registered with File-Reg.com then you have proof that can be used in a court of law should anyone else claim to have had the idea first. After all, in the US you have in regard to patents the 'First to invent' rule.

I've seen this type of comment relied upon in a dangerous way.  Not that anyone will die -- not that type of dangerous, but people going off on their way thinking their idea is protected from copying or exploitation by others when it's pretty clearly not.  The bottom line is that "first to invent" is only meaningful between patent applicants claiming the same invention at about the same time.  If you don't file your patent application, you don't even get to compete in the "first to invent" game and registration in that site is completely useless.  

Registering, mailing your idea to your self, burying your invention notes in the backyard, etc. are all insufficient to "protect" you in any meaningful way.  Documenting your date of conception and your diligent effort in reducing your conception to practice are helpful, but only if and when you file your patent application.

Second, yes you must apply for a patent within the first year of registration except you then can apply (in the US) for a provisional patent (roughly $160) which will give you 'another' year of protection. Before the provisional patent runs out - 1 year - you should then apply for a full patent.

The online registration method does give you an extra year to try and sell the idea or maybe develop it more.

If you spend only $160 on a provisional application, I'd wager large sums of money that it's entirely useless in "protecting" anyone or anything.  There are no reduced/relaxed standards for legal sufficiency of provisional relative to real patent applications.  Yet, I see professionals file something that would be unthinkably risky (in terms of legal adequacy of disclosure) as a provisional application because it's "just a provisional."  I shudder to think what pro se applicants file as "just a provisional."

Provisionals don't buy you anything unless the provisional is written with as much care and effort as a real, legitimate patent application.  Registration buys you even less.

http://www.isrlaw.com/provFAQ.html

Regards.