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Author Topic: Is "substantially equal to" useful in a claim in regard to infringement?  (Read 4825 times)

smgsmc

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Again, thanks everyone.  Special thanks to klav and Karen.  This has been one of the most informative posts ever. 
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With respect to claims geared to an end result, often you wind up with the same problem:  criteria to determine when the end result is attained (function is performed).  In your simplified example, the question then becomes when does the pipe reach from the first shelf to the second shelf?  What if it's shy by 1/16 inch or over by 1/16 inch?  Does it infringe? 

Well, perhaps my example was too simplistic.  The "reaching" should achieve some goal.  Suppose the first and second shelves should support the pipe thereacross.  Or suppose the pipe should "reach" such that a cue ball can roll from the first shelf, through the pipe, and on to the second shelf. 

In theory (and hopefully in practice in the context of a real application), failure to achieve that goal in an accused device will deny significant value of the the accused device such that it's okay if it doesn't infringe, even if it fails to allow the cue ball to roll to the second shelf by only a millimeter or even less.

Similarly, if I have a table with a top, a base, and four legs, I can specify the lengths of the legs such that the top is [substantially] parallel to the base.  But the problem then shifts from measurements of the lengths of the legs to measurements of degree of parallelism between the top and the base.

Again, it might be worth trying to find functional measurements of level-ness.  How about "sufficiently level such that a new, clean sheet of 20-lb bond paper of US letter size will not slide off the table top when consisting essentially of clean, unmarred formica?"

It might be the arts I work in, but usually things do what they're supposed to do or they don't.  How "level" a thing must be to be a table rarely, if ever, comes up for me.  However, some things I'm working on now will probably have those "how much is enough" issues.  Ugh....

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It might be the arts I work in, but usually things do what they're supposed to do or they don't.  How "level" a thing must be to be a table rarely, if ever, comes up for me.  However, some things I'm working on now will probably have those "how much is enough" issues.  Ugh....

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Same here.  Most of my work has been in telcom and data networking.  This issue rarely arose.  I'm getting involved with more mechanical inventions.  The "how much is enough" issues now crop up more frequently.  And often there are not well-defined criteria.  It's not a go/no-go threshold, but a broad range of performance.  How much clearance is required for a piston sliding inside a cylinder?  Are we talking about an el-cheapo lawn mower engine or a high-performance racing car engine?  How well aligned do the left and right lens barrels of a pair of binoculars need to be?  Are we talking $10 Tasco or $2000 Zeiss?  The same issues crop up in some materials processing cases.  What is the hardness range for a knife blade?  Are we talking about a 99 cent special or a $500 tactical weapon?

Defining functional results often is quite convoluted.  Try reading ASTM standards.  Many read like your hypo on test of table top levelness.  Geometry, surface roughness, chemical contamination, humidity, air currents .... and many other parameters need to be specified.  In your example, the issue now arises of what constitutes "clean" and what constitutes "unmarred".  ASTM standards wrestle with issues like that.
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