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[Patentlawguru06]

(Atlanta) 2011 Part-time Job Opportunity: Patent Agent/Attorney

Patent Attorney Requirements (Does not need to be a member of the Georgia Bar)
•   8+years patent drafting/prosecution experience
•   Patent Examiner experience a plus: may also count towards years of drafting experience
•   Patent Litigation & Licensing experience a plus
•   Initial assignment will be for a 3 month duration
•   Must be willing to work evenings and some weekends (12hrs – 17hrs per week, flexible)
•   3 Month Starting Salary: $7,500 (negotiable)

Patent Agent Requirements
•   5+years patent drafting/prosecution experience
•   Patent Examiner experience a plus: may also count towards years of drafting experience
•   Initial assignment will be for a 3 month duration
•   Must be willing to work evenings and some weekends  (8hrs – 10hrs per week, flexible)
•   3 Month Starting Salary: $5,000 (negotiable)

Opportunity for growth in earning potential!!!
Don’t miss out on this great opportunity to pioneer a new field in patent law!  If you are interested and would like to discuss, please send a copy of your resume with your contact information to Braxton Davis at patentlawguru@gmail.com.  Serious applicants only please.

[xyzzy]

You should edit your post to clarify that the salary you've listed is per-month.  I initially came away thinking that you were offering those amounts for the entire three month engagement. Only after thinking about it did I realize how silly that would be.  lol. 

[Jonathan]

Pay the measly $25 to have your job properly posted and support this website.

[Patentlawguru06]

You should edit your post to clarify that the salary you've listed is per-month.  I initially came away thinking that you were offering those amounts for the entire three month engagement. Only after thinking about it did I realize how silly that would be.  lol. 

The salary listed is for a 3 month duration although the salary IS negotiable depending upon experience, availability, work-product, etc.  Therefore, if someone is interested and contacts me, all of those things will be taken into consideration.  What is listed is more of a base salary.  Sorry for the confusion.

[klaviernista]

Pay the measly $25 to have your job properly posted and support this website.

Seconded. 

[Patentlawguru06]

Pay the measly $25 to have your job properly posted and support this website.

I didn't realize I could post to the "Jobs" section, so it isn't about the money.  I will post to the "Jobs" section later.

Thanks

[Patentlawguru06]

All,

Just posted it to the "Jobs" section.  Does anyone else have anymore advice that may be helpful?

Thanks Again,

Braxton

[Jonathan]

Sweet!

[MYK]

Patent Attorney Requirements
•   8+years patent drafting/prosecution experience
•   Must be willing to work evenings and some weekends (12hrs – 17hrs per week, flexible)
•   3 Month Starting Salary: $7,500 (negotiable)

Patent Agent Requirements
•   5+years patent drafting/prosecution experience
•   Must be willing to work evenings and some weekends  (8hrs – 10hrs per week, flexible)
•   3 Month Starting Salary: $5,000 (negotiable)

Attorney: 13 weeks at ~15hrs/wk ~= 200 hours, $7500/200 = $37.50/hr
Agent: 13 weeks at ~9hrs/wk ~= 120 hours, 5000/120 ~= $41.50/hr

Opportunity for growth in earning potential!!!

No offense, but, man, if I were that far into my career, I would sure as hell hope so.  Want fries with that?

[Patentlawguru06]

Opportunity for growth in earning potential!!!

No offense, but, man, if I were that far into my career, I would sure as hell hope so.  Want fries with that?

MYK,

I know you may think your averages and calculations may do what I'm offering justice, but it really doesn't.  So please ask for clarification before you make condescending remarks:

1. As I stated, hours are flexible.  So that means the denominator in your calculation may decrease.
2. What I listed is a base salary (meaning no one will make less than this) and is negotiable based upon experience, work product, etc.  So this means the numerator in your calculation may increase.
3. There is a great potential for growth.  I am looking for those who are willing to work with me to expand and they will be rewarded accordingly, thereby continuing to increase the numerator in your calculation.

In no way are these salaries meant to replace someone's full-time job or compensate them for what they "could" make at a firm or corporation (at least not yet), that is why it is listed as part-time.  The hours listed are estimates and will ultimately depend on other factors, but all of these details will be determined and set out so that interested persons will be able to make informed decisions as to what they are undertaking.  These salaries may offer a little extra spending money, help during a rough time in this economy, or a way to bridge the gap while looking for full-time work.
Furthermore, if you would like to do calculations, please perform maximums and minimums so that the whole picture is shown and not just one that may be skewed by several factors which you are approximating without the proper foundation to do so.  I am willing to go into detail about the job listings but only with those who are truly interested in pioneering into a new level of patent law.  So I hope this clears up any confusion because these positions will not take the place of full-time employment until we have expanded significantly.

Thank You,

Braxton

[dablueman]

Is it April already?

[Patentlawguru06]

Is it April already?

I was actually looking to have the positions filled by March and run the program through May.  However if you're interested, shoot me an email and we may be able to work something out with you.

Thanks,

Braxton

[dablueman]

I was actually looking to have the positions filled by March and run the program through May.  However if you're interested, shoot me an email and we may be able to work something out with you.

Sorry you missed the point of the post. What you're asking for is basically an out of work patent attorney or agent with many years experience in Atlanta. You're not likely to get any currently employed attorneys/agents for two reasons: 1) they already have to meet their billable hours and you're not paying nearly enough for them to consider wasting what little free time they have (see xyzzy's post above who reasoned that he had made a silly mistake when reading the salary), 2) conflict of interest problems.

Plus you're asking part-time patent attorneys/agents to be available on weekends for some strange reason.

Furthermore, if you would like to do calculations, please perform maximums and minimums so that the whole picture is shown and not just one that may be skewed by several factors which you are approximating without the proper foundation to do so.

Attorney
$7,500
12-17 hours per week for 3 months
144-204 hours total
$36.76 - $52.08 per hour

Agent
$5,000
8-10 hours per week for 3 months
96-120 hours total
$41.67 - $52.08 per hour


At best you're going to be paying the attorney with more experience the same as the agent with less. In all cases but the one with the least number of hours/week you're going to be paying the agent with 5+ years experience more than the attorney with 8+. Also, assuming the work product is reviewed by an examiner with the same number of years experience, it will likely be the case that the examiner will be making more per hour to review the work product than the attorney/agent that prepared it. Hence the "is it April already" comment.


Sincerely,
Mr. April 1.

[Patentlawguru06]

Sorry you missed the point of the post. What you're asking for is basically an out of work patent attorney or agent with many years experience in Atlanta. You're not likely to get any currently employed attorneys/agents for two reasons: 1) they already have to meet their billable hours and you're not paying nearly enough for them to consider wasting what little free time they have (see xyzzy's post above who reasoned that he had made a silly mistake when reading the salary), 2) conflict of interest problems.

Plus you're asking part-time patent attorneys/agents to be available on weekends for some strange reason.

Furthermore, if you would like to do calculations, please perform maximums and minimums so that the whole picture is shown and not just one that may be skewed by several factors which you are approximating without the proper foundation to do so.

Attorney
$7,500
12-17 hours per week for 3 months
144-204 hours total
$36.76 - $52.08 per hour

Agent
$5,000
8-10 hours per week for 3 months
96-120 hours total
$41.67 - $52.08 per hour


At best you're going to be paying the attorney with more experience the same as the agent with less. In all cases but the one with the least number of hours/week you're going to be paying the agent with 5+ years experience more than the attorney with 8+. Also, assuming the work product is reviewed by an examiner with the same number of years experience, it will likely be the case that the examiner will be making more per hour to review the work product than the attorney/agent that prepared it. Hence the "is it April already" comment.

Sincerely,
Mr. April 1.

Dablueman,

While your calculations of the maximum and minimum pay rates are logical based upon your understanding, or lack thereof, of what has been proposed, your ultimate conclusions are not indicative of what is being proposed.  And yes, maybe these positions will be more favorable to out of work attorneys/agents, retired agents/attorneys, or like I said earlier, someone looking to make a little extra cash with the potential for growth in the future. 

Furthermore, I never stated in what capacity each individual would be used.  For example, if I am paying the patent attorney the same rate to sweep floors as I am paying the patent agent to draft patents, will the patent attorney be upset, probably not. You are highlighting the differences in experience and insinuating that that alone will justify a higher pay rate.  And I agree that under other circumstances it does, but it does not necessarily make this the rule.  For example, if a seasoned attorney accepted a part-time job at Target as a cashier to make some extra cash for the holidays, should he expect to receive attorney pay?  Of course not. 

As I've stated numerous times, the hours are flexible and the pay rate is negotiable.  Of course, all of this will be discussed with potential applicants, and then they can make an informed decision.  So it is ultimately up to each interested individual whether the pay is comparable to the workload and their individual situations. By no means are we trying to get over on anyone as your "April 1" comment insinuates.

Now, I am very interested to find out what potential conflicts of interest you are referencing.  And yes, I am asking agents/attorneys to be available for some weekends.  Anyone who wants to work, needs money, or believes in a cause doesn't mind sacrificing for such.

Also, there was never any mention of an examiner being employed to review the agents/attorney's work product.  While I do look forward to any constructive feedback, I can do without snide remarks as to the validity of what I am proposing, so maybe I did miss the point of your original post.

Thank You,

Braxton

[MYK]

Attorney
$7,500
12-17 hours per week for 3 months
144-204 hours total
$36.76 - $52.08 per hour

Agent
$5,000
8-10 hours per week for 3 months
96-120 hours total
$41.67 - $52.08 per hour

Multiply by 12/13 (approx. .923).  Three months is thirteen weeks, not twelve.  All those two or three leftover days at the end of the month add up (save for February, of course, except once every four years, but not every hundred, except every four hundred -- but in any case not this year or next).