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nummo

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writing samples
« on: 06-09-10 at 09:31 am »

Hi
I am currently applying for jobs and some firms are asking for a writing sample.  i have worked for two firms in my two years of experience as a patent attorney.

the current firm i am working in either files non pub requests or the apps that i drafted havent been published yet since they were written less than 18 months ago. 

i have some published apps that i worked on in my prior firm. since it was my first year, my writing skills have improved tremendously. can i provide the firm a response to an office action that i wrote recently that got a case allowed or should i just provide a patent application that i drafted at my old firm.  what do they really mean by writing sample? what is more impressive or desirable as a writing sample, a response or a patent application?

Also, should i just send one patent application of my choice or can i send a list of apps with their titles that they can choose to review.  this gives them the ability to review more work as well as shows that I have worked on different technologies. what do u think is a smarter move.

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Re: writing samples
« Reply #1 on: 06-09-10 at 10:22 am »

First things first, you cannot disclose any client or firm confidential information to your prospective new employer.  You probably knew that, but it's important enough to be worth stating. 

Anything in a published application that you authored is "fair game" for use as a writing sample.  Responses to Office Actions, specifications, claims, etc.  All that information has been donated to the public, and so clearly raises no issue of confidentiality.

As for the appropriate writing sample to send, it will depend on what you are applying to do at the new firm.  Are you applying for a prosecution slot?  If so, send in one application that you think is the best representation of your work.  Applying to be a litigator?  Send in one brief or motion that you drafted, again, which is the best representation of your work.  If the client is looking for a particular technical expertise, you might also want to submit a copy of a journal article or two that you may have written on the topic, or perhaps your dissertation if you have a graduate level degree in that technical area.

I would offer, but not provide, additional writing samples to the prospective employer for two reasons. First, you want the employer to see your best work product possible.  You don't want them to be distracted by an error you might have committed in one of the many additional writing samples you might provide.  Second, it is unlikely that the prospective employer will want to review a pluirality of writing samples for one candidate, nor is it likely that they have the time to do so.  Pick your best work, submit it, and offer to provide additional samples if the prospective employer asks.  And if they do ask, I would again limit your response to the best 1-2 additional samples, for the same reasons stated above.


Good luck!
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Re: writing samples
« Reply #2 on: 06-09-10 at 10:58 am »

Thanks.
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bald & chained

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Re: writing samples
« Reply #3 on: 06-09-10 at 01:16 pm »

I always wondered - since most substantive things one writes as an associate usually go through multiple levels of review, is it ethical to use a document that's been heavily edited by others as a writing sample ?
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« Reply #4 on: 06-09-10 at 02:11 pm »

Clearly not, but then, if all your writing is being rewritten by others, you might ask yourself why that would need to be so...
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Re: writing samples
« Reply #5 on: 06-09-10 at 03:25 pm »

Clearly not, but then, if all your writing is being rewritten by others, you might ask yourself why that would need to be so...

Some of my 1449 forms don't get edited too much, maybe I can use those as a writing sample.
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« Reply #6 on: 06-09-10 at 04:36 pm »

Clearly not, but then, if all your writing is being rewritten by others, you might ask yourself why that would need to be so...

I think a large part of that depends on the type of partner you are working for.  Some will sign just about anything with little or no changes.  Others will regularly throw out the first draft.
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Re: writing samples
« Reply #7 on: 06-16-10 at 06:02 pm »

Bump ---

I have a request from a firm to send a writing sample. I am applying patent agent position. However, since it's been about 3 years out of school already, I don't have any technical writing sample. I just found one book review which is non-techie that I wrote last year. Will it be okay to submit that one instead of trying to write one now, which I have no idea what to write?

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Sue
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