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[dablueman]

I recommend you call the USPTO HR office, and ask them what their policy is. Ask them,

1) Can examiners accumulate counts?
2) Can examiners take overtime hours?
3) Can examiner use those accumulated counts to satisy the work required for taking those overtime hours?

First none of us are the ones that need to be calling the HR office with questions because we know the rules. Second you left out the question that counts and the reason people are telling you that you're doing something illegal/unethical.

4) When an examiner has extra counts can they claim overtime for hours not actually worked?
H.R. Answer: "No, of course not. Who is doing that?"

[horsechute]

You really roll me, dabluemen. By the looks of it, you should probably apply for one of those jobs that Klav originaly posted in this thread.

Before there was work at home, it was simple: You had to be in your office for the overtime hours claimed, although theoretically if you claimed 20 hours of OT, I suppose you were supposed to work all of those 20 hours. Given the piece-work nature of patent examining, if someone reaches 110 percent in 19 hours, and then pitches horseshoes in their office for the remaining hour, I would refer to that as the proverbial distinction without a difference. Now, some people will take this to an extreme: they (almost always primaries) will hand out mounds of crap, with office actions that consist of one sentence rejections, and then claim the maximum amount of hours of OT after playing space invaders for all 40 hours of their claimed OT, and laugh all the way to the bank, but then cry when a alleged "ruthless" SPE, who is just doing his/her job, shuts them down.

I would say, Dablueman, that your views are a bit unrealistic, and are the product of a newbie mentality, although they are at least a bit commendable. I would rather see people not play the system with our money; but carried to an extreme, you are asking to create a work environment similar to what you have at places such as the NSA, which is kind of where the agency was heading when Kappos took over and began his attempt to restore the PTO's credibility, not to mention its financial condition. Kind of reminds me of Russia, before the Berlin wall came down.

[dablueman]

I would say, Dablueman, that your views are a bit unrealistic, and are the product of a newbie mentality, although they are at least a bit commendable. I would rather see people not play the system with our money; but carried to an extreme, you are asking to create a work environment similar to what you have at places such as the NSA, which is kind of where the agency was heading when Kappos took over and began his attempt to restore the PTO's credibility, not to mention its financial condition. Kind of reminds me of Russia, before the Berlin wall came down.

I really hope you're an agent rather than attorney.

[DogDayPM 9er9er9er]

your views are a bit unrealistic, and are the product of a newbie mentality, although they are at least a bit commendable.

I'd go the opposite way - not a newbie mentality at all but old fashioned honesty and ethics. 

It's getting scarce enough as it is without folks like you mocking it.