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ptonewb
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« Reply #3540 on: 02-21-10 at 12:25 pm »

Thanks MK.. I guess ill hang on.
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« Reply #3541 on: 02-22-10 at 07:30 pm »

Here is an interesting bit from a newspaper, dated January 1st:

"Figuring prominently in the Patent Office's failure to decrease the amount of its backlog has been Congress's inability to keep its hands off the agency's money. The way it's supposed to work is that the fees the Patent Office generates sustain the system. Congress, however, has siphoned about $752 million in fees from the office since 1992 for other non-patent-related federal uses, crippling the agency's ability to hire the examiners it needs to replace the many leaving and to put a dent in the backlog. It's a mystery where this latest $100 million action (edit: recent siphoning of their funds) came from."

It may be a mystery where it came from, but it is no mystery where the money is going: picture an oversized rathole with a name plate above it that reads "AIG."

Yes, friends, for all of you hundreds of people reading this, Jupiter may yet align with Mars and you may yet have the opportunity to serve your country (not to mention pay off your student loans) as a Patent Examiner, but I would not count on it soon, at least not until 2023, which will be the next time when this celestial event occurs, and when the yield on 3-month Treasury Bills reaches 1%.
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« Reply #3542 on: 02-24-10 at 03:21 pm »

There was a meeting today where it was announced that there were around 3,000 resumes sitting in HR. Obviously the PTO can only hire a fraction of the 3000, but it shows that there is temporary demand I suppose.
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« Reply #3543 on: 02-24-10 at 04:05 pm »

What are people's opinions about working for the PTO after law school?  I was a summer associate at a law firm last summer, but unfortunately like many 2Ls, that did not turn into a job-offer.  After looking at all the job postings online, it seems that all the firms are looking for someone with 2-3 years experience.  What are my best options of obtaining a job after graduation?
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« Reply #3544 on: 02-24-10 at 04:08 pm »

btw, I am a registered patent agent with a MSEE.
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« Reply #3545 on: 02-24-10 at 04:45 pm »

There was a meeting today where it was announced that there were around 3,000 resumes sitting in HR. Obviously the PTO can only hire a fraction of the 3000, but it shows that there is temporary demand I suppose.

Curious as to how many of these are from n00bs vs. "experienced IP professionals."
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« Reply #3546 on: 02-24-10 at 04:45 pm »

and of those 3000 how many will qualify as a GS-11
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« Reply #3547 on: 02-24-10 at 07:16 pm »

It may be a mystery where it came from, but it is no mystery where the money is going: picture an oversized rathole with a name plate above it that reads "AIG."

The reality is that a mere $100,000,000 is too small for Bennie and Timmie to even glance at.  Bennie is too busy running the multibillion-dollar printing presses to bother with pocket change like that.  Hank, of course, is off birdwatching and keeping the missile batteries manned in case anyone goes after him on his private island.  Considering what they've done to this country, each of these bastards should be given a fair trial and a speedy hanging for treason.
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« Reply #3548 on: 02-26-10 at 05:08 pm »

Did anyone else listen in on the PTO webinar today?  It sounds like the most important part of the application is the KSA responses.  Does anyone have an idea on how long or detailed they should be?
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« Reply #3549 on: 02-26-10 at 05:14 pm »

Did anyone else listen in on the PTO webinar today?  It sounds like the most important part of the application is the KSA responses.  Does anyone have an idea on how long or detailed they should be?

whoa, what webinar?  link to webinar or a transcript thereof?  thnx.
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« Reply #3550 on: 02-28-10 at 10:41 pm »

Did the webinar say how much experience the PTO is looking for?
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« Reply #3551 on: 03-01-10 at 08:19 am »

They didn't specify the amount of experience required for the position, but you need to have some experience to be considered.  They also said that prosecution experience as a summer associate in a law firm counts.
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« Reply #3552 on: 03-01-10 at 08:55 am »

My SPE told us in our group meeting that the PTO will be hiring about 500 examiners this year. They want experienced people 1st so they do not have to send them through the academy. That being said what does the academy teach? What is a 101, 102, 103, 112, PCT, double patenting, terminal disclaimer? I would assume (this is only my assumption) that if you have a registration number, you would probably be experienced enough to skip the academy.

Once they run out of experienced people they will start with inexperienced.

On a side note, rumor has it (from a friend and not SPE) that HR has about 3,000 resumes built up.
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« Reply #3553 on: 03-01-10 at 10:21 am »

My SPE told us in our group meeting that the PTO will be hiring about 500 examiners this year.

Do you know which areas are in most demand for examiners?
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« Reply #3554 on: 03-01-10 at 03:53 pm »

probably the art units that need electrical engineers and computer engineers
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