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cordovan66
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« on: 11-05-09 at 11:12 am »

I have a technical invention in the field of audio compression. It's a novel approach to audio compression. I have a simulation that implements the ideas. So far it's showing modest results. It's not clear that it's better than existing techniques. However, I believe further fine tuning within my framework can make this approach better than existing ones.

I'm anxious to file a patent protecting my approach. Do I need to actually demonstrate that my technique can do better than existing schemes or can I patent my approach regardless? Should I wait till I prove my solution and risk someone else patenting it?

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« Reply #1 on: 11-05-09 at 12:19 pm »

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Do I need to actually demonstrate that my technique can do better than existing schemes

No, you do not; there is no requirement to demonstrate improved efficacy. The patent office would only care about whether this approach is novel and non-obvious with respect to prior art.

Best of luck.
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« Reply #2 on: 11-05-09 at 12:28 pm »

Vman11 is generally right, but I'll add a small caveat.  Utility is generally very easy to meet, but is a bit tricky in the area of computer-implemented inventions. 

I'm not sure whether you're referring to compression of dynamic range using analog circuitry or digital data compression of audio data, the latter most likely using a computer.  The law in the area of utility (Section 101) provided by computer-implemented inventions is in a state of transition at the moment.  I don't think you'd have any problems that couldn't be overcome by careful drafting of your application, but not being aware of the issue and failing to take care of it up front could cost you in the long term.

You can search for "Bilski" in these forums and read all about it.

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« Reply #3 on: 11-05-09 at 04:57 pm »

I have a technical invention in the field of audio compression. It's a novel approach to audio compression. I have a simulation that implements the ideas. So far it's showing modest results. It's not clear that it's better than existing techniques. However, I believe further fine tuning within my framework can make this approach better than existing ones.

I'm anxious to file a patent protecting my approach. Do I need to actually demonstrate that my technique can do better than existing schemes or can I patent my approach regardless? Should I wait till I prove my solution and risk someone else patenting it?

Thanks

If it's intended to provide an esthetic value, all you may need to show is that at least one person finds its output useful to them.  If it relates to signal manipulation to achieve an effect internally in an electrical circuit, refer to Jim's writing.

Also be mindful that there is case law that holds that optimizing a results-effective variable in a system can be rejected as obvious, so one should consider judiciously choosing their words in any records they may make for archiving, and communications with others because the record might be scrutinize on day; language interpretation lending itself at times to be ambiguous, one does not wish to afford an opponent to make assertions that could have otherwise been Rightly avoided.
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