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[DogDayPM 9er9er9er]

The only difference for the patent bar is what category I sit under. I have taken well over 40 hours of engineering coursework along with over 20 of calc-based physics and minored in math. I'm also taking the FE in two weeks. I called the PTO and they said that I'll just qualify under cat. C (though if I pass the FE, Ill qualify under that cat because it's easier then getting them my transcripts and course explanantions). The reason for the discrepancy is that outisde of engineering I have run into very few people who know the difference, so I just say BSEE because it's easier. 

Good - figured it was something like that but wanted to ask in case you were making an assumption about test eligibility.  Seems I needn't have worried.

They're calling the FE the FE again?  For a while they had shifted to "EIT" - Engineer In Training - which seemed kind of a put down.  (Dammit!  I'm really an engineer even if I never bothered to get the PE!)  I figure you shouldn't have any trouble passing the FE given your UG.  Although as a ChE I found it to be a pain and only Dog knows why I passed.  There's like one token question for ChE's on the order of "In an atom, the outside thingie that circles around that central thingie is called what?"  Everthing else was ME and EE.  And in thermo and fluid mechanics ChEs and MEs learn the same stuff but tend to use some different symbols, and the FE sticks with the ME standard uses, so it was easy to misread a problem if attention drifted.  I would have been lost on the EE stuff if not for a real saint of an EE friend willing to pull an all-nighter getting me prepped on that.

[MSEE]

the bseet is ABET accredited (see southern polytechnic state university on abet's website) but the PTO is mad lame and decided that although they allow electronics technology and electrical engineering to sit that I, a major in electrical engineering technology would not be allowed to sit. But whatever, I have the coursework and hopefully I'll have the FE.

As for the FE Mr.DogDay.... This should be interesting... Im studying with a CivE friend for help withe dynamics and mechnicas stuff and Im helping him with the EE stuff.. I am minoring in math which will really helpful in that I am fresh on all things math, calc1-4, lin alg, discrete, etc. I just need to make sure I can get some of the ME stuff right and I can nail my EE stuff, alot of which I need to review. but my passing it isn't really neccesary for anything, i just paid for it a while back and decided i might as well try and pass it. I also figure it cant hurt when trying to get either an eng. job or a job in IP. Dogday, do you mind if i ask where you went to schools for you degrees?

[DogDayPM 9er9er9er]

Hey Zach, sent you an email with some rambling thoughts.
 - DDPM.

[gabbo]

the bseet is ABET accredited (see southern polytechnic state university on abet's website) but the PTO is mad lame and decided that although they allow electronics technology and electrical engineering to sit that I, a major in electrical engineering technology would not be allowed to sit. But whatever, I have the coursework and hopefully I'll have the FE.

hmmm, I should have clarified, I was curious as to whether or not BSEET was accredited as an Engineering degree or a Technology degree and according to Southern poly's website it's classified as a technology degree, and from what I understand an EET degree is not the the same as robust as an EE degree.

Nevertheless, a quick google search showed that there is indeed a lot of patent attorneys with EET degrees.

[MSEE]

yeah, my bad. It is not an accredited as an engineerng degree,  but still qualifies me to sit for the patent bar. Fortunately for me my undergrad school just got approved to offer the EE degree, so I can go back and get my degree changed pretty quickly. Which I may or may not do, depends on how much time I have on my hands. besides everyone thinks we're stupider then the EE kids anyways just for choosing a diff major... oh well. it could be worse, I could be a Pol Sci major. 

[Scotto]

But a PoliSCi with a super duper GPA can enroll in LS with an amazing LSAT off the bat to a T14 no problem. I don't see BS engineering degrees being anymore weighted at all.

[MSEE]

But a PoliSCi with a super duper GPA can enroll in LS with an amazing LSAT off the bat to a T14 no problem. I don't see BS engineering degrees being anymore weighted at all.

Don't know if this is sarcasm or not...

Yeah, I knew a few PolSci kids from my undergrad who had 4.0s and time to actually study for an LSAT, I have the utmost respect for them though, it would be difficult for me to maintain interest in that major for 4 years. I guess we get ours back in the job prospects afterwards... and from what Ive heard a typically easier job overall

[Scotto]

It was partially sarcastic. I kind of envy them since they obviously knew they wanted to attend LS which is why they got into that major in the first place; at least one would hope so. Then again, zero of them are practicing IP law (at least through traditional means) so it's a moot point.

[DogDayPM 9er9er9er]

It was partially sarcastic. I kind of envy them since they obviously knew they wanted to attend LS which is why they got into that major in the first place; at least one would hope so. Then again, zero of them are practicing IP law (at least through traditional means) so it's a moot point.

To clarify, if you meant they (poli-sci UGs) are not practicing patent law, keerect.  But there's a whole big world of IP law out there besides, strictly speaking, patent law.

IP litigation of any sort.  Also sports and entertainment law (and all that right of personal attribution stuff, dead or alive), trademark law, internet law (and domains, although maybe that belongs over in trademarks), copyrights, etc.

[MYK]

But a PoliSCi with a super duper GPA can enroll in LS with an amazing LSAT off the bat to a T14 no problem. I don't see BS engineering degrees being anymore weighted at all.

They are, at least in some schools.  I wouldn't be in mine if they didn't.

[MSEE]

I have heard that schools do, I think I heard the GTown does, but that may be incorrect, MYK, what schools did/do you go to that cared about it?

[MSEE]

Engineering grades for going into law schools are generally taken into account. I went to the LSAC forums this past weekend in Atlanta and spoke with nearly every school in the top 30. Some schools were brutally honest, which was greatly appreciated. But the general consensus was that they were concerned with the difficulty of undergraduate major, electives, and course load. The lady at Michigan was very adamant about the diversity we bring to law school. (Though I don't really know how much that would be just form having a diff major) but all in all I feel much better about applying to a school like Berkeley with my Extracurriculars and work experience at a major research institute. Note: by "feeling much better" I mean I wouldnt be completely wasting the $12 to apply. (I was granted an LSAC fee waiver, so I will be blanketing the top 20) Otherwise it seems that things are going up, especially with my intern experiences.