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Author Topic: Protecting My Car Magnet Idea and Marketing  (Read 2008 times)

TrillionBuks

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Protecting My Car Magnet Idea and Marketing
« on: 06-18-09 at 02:25 pm »

Hello all! I am brand new to these forums and wanted to pick the brains of people more knowledgeable in the area of intellectual property rights.

I have an idea for a car magnet/static cling decal/car freshener patterns and wanted to protect both the patterns and name before approaching manufacturers or investors. Since this is the first "invention" I felt worthwhile enough to pursue I have very little knowledge on how best to proceed.

I am not clear on whether I need to trademark, patent or copyright my idea.

Do I need to trademark or copyright each individual pattern?

If I am the first to apply a well known pattern to this medium will I be able to patent/copyright/trademark the product?

Does anyone have a suggestion on a manufacturer for car magnets or rear view mirror air fresheners they want to recommend?

Any info is appreciated. Again, I want to thank everyone in advance!
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TrillionBuks

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Re: Protecting My Car Magnet Idea and Marketing
« Reply #1 on: 06-18-09 at 02:28 pm »

Another quick question:

If I were to decide to have my product manufactured in a country like China do I need additional IP protection?
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Kaitlin

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Re: Protecting My Car Magnet Idea and Marketing
« Reply #2 on: 06-18-09 at 08:24 pm »

Hi,

I won't be able to address all your questions but perhaps can get you started with some basic legal principles.  Hopefully someone else may be able to address the practical marketing strategy end of things, which will be equally important. 

What you're probably looking at is copyright protection for the look of your designs and trademark protection for the name you are planning to use.
I doubt that your situation calls for patent protection--at least not utility patent protection which is for inventions which are novel, useful, and non-obvious, and it doesn't sound like you are in that ball-park with the decals and magnets.  There is another sort of patent protection, a "design patent",  which might be relevant, however.  (To the best of my recollection, design patents relate to an ornamental (non-useful) configuration or shape of an article.  Patent people: feel free to jump in here and explain further or correct this.)

Copyright -- as the name implies -- has to do with the right to make copies.  If your designs for the decals are original works of authorship, you have a copyright in them.  You can put the copyright symbol, your name as the copyright holder, and the year you're first "publishing" them (first making them public) on the image/design to give notice that you are claiming your copyright in the work.  You can also register the images with the copyright office for added protection including the ability to bring suit for infringement.

Trademark has to do with "branding" a product or service, to keep your products distinct from similar ones on the market so there is no "likelihood of confusion" as to the source of the goods.  This is the protection you probably want for the name you've come up with.   (It is possible to use your copyrighted design as a trademark, but here you would be treating it as a symbol to show the items come from you as a market source -- rather than protecting the picture or image as such.)

Trademark rights in the US are based on use of the mark.  In the past, you couldn't apply to register a mark till you had established it though use.  During the last couple of decades, however, the "Intent to Use" registration has been devised to cover situations like yours -- where you have a trademark in mind and want to protect it while you gear-up for your business.  The registration won't actually issue till you are using the mark in interstate commerce, but you get a priority date that goes back to when you filed your ITU trademark application.

You might like to put your post in the trademark or copyright forums to elicit more responses keyed to these issues.

Good luck.
« Last Edit: 06-18-09 at 08:29 pm by Kaitlin »
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Re: Protecting My Car Magnet Idea and Marketing
« Reply #3 on: 06-19-09 at 06:56 am »

Thank you very much Kaitlin!
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Wiscagent

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Re: Protecting My Car Magnet Idea and Marketing
« Reply #4 on: 06-19-09 at 07:57 am »

You might want to read General Information Concerning Patents on the USPTO website at http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/doc/general/index.html .  It generally discusses patents, trademarks, servicemarks, and copyrights.
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Re: Protecting My Car Magnet Idea and Marketing
« Reply #5 on: 06-19-09 at 03:26 pm »



Copyright -- as the name implies -- has to do with the right to make copies.  If your designs for the decals are original works of authorship, you have a copyright in them.  You can put the copyright symbol, your name as the copyright holder, and the year you're first "publishing" them (first making them public) on the image/design to give notice that you are claiming your copyright in the work.  You can also register the images with the copyright office for added protection including the ability to bring suit for infringement.


Kaitlin's post is solid and informative.  However, it should be noted that while Copyright law might protect your designs for the decals internationally, and could potentially protect the designs or elements of them within the United States...

In the United States copyright law will not generally protect the design of products which are considered to be 'functional' - i.e. considered to serve a utilitarian function beyond, say, looking pretty.  Trademark protection can potentially come into play (Google 'trade dress' for more info), but a design patent may be what you are looking for.  Design patents are cheaper than regular patents (i.e. "utility patents") and they tend to offer trademark/copyright-esque protection.

For more info, do check the link that Richard provides.

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« Reply #6 on: 06-19-09 at 07:38 pm »

Glad to have CriterionD's additional design patent info and clarification re copyright vis-a-vis functional objects.   I confess I was forgetting the "pattern" language of the original post initially, and my thoughts on copyright were directed towards a "picture-on-decal" sort of situation.   
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Re: Protecting My Car Magnet Idea and Marketing
« Reply #7 on: 07-08-09 at 06:24 pm »

Another quick question:

If I were to decide to have my product manufactured in a country like China do I need additional IP protection?

If you want to manufacture and sell your products in China and get protection while you meet infrigement in the future, you'd better apply both patent and trademark for it first. Although sometime people still can not win the infrigement dispute in China, but it's going to be worse if you do not have any IP certificate in hand. For more information, please visit www.jiaquanip.com.

DENG Zhihao
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Re: Protecting My Car Magnet Idea and Marketing
« Reply #8 on: 07-09-09 at 09:56 am »

Another quick question:

If I were to decide to have my product manufactured in a country like China do I need additional IP protection?

If you want to manufacture and sell your products in China and get protection while you meet infrigement in the future, you'd better apply both patent and trademark for it first. Although sometime people still can not win the infrigement dispute in China, but it's going to be worse if you do not have any IP certificate in hand. For more information, please visit www.jiaquanip.com.

DENG Zhihao
"sometime people" meaning "anyone who isn't a Chinese national", generally speaking.
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Re: Protecting My Car Magnet Idea and Marketing
« Reply #9 on: 07-01-10 at 02:34 am »

Another quick question:

If I were to decide to have my product manufactured in a country like China do I need additional IP protection?

If you want to manufacture and sell your products in China and get protection while you meet infrigement in the future, you'd better apply both patent and trademark for it first. Although sometime people still can not win the infrigement dispute in China, but it's going to be worse if you do not have any IP certificate in hand. For more information, please visit www.jiaquanip.com.

DENG Zhihao
"sometime people" meaning "anyone who isn't a Chinese national", generally speaking.
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Re: Protecting My Car Magnet Idea and Marketing
« Reply #10 on: 07-01-10 at 01:49 pm »

If I am the first to apply a well known pattern to this medium will I be able to patent/copyright/trademark the product?

Maybe I am missing something.  Copyright protects original works of authorship.  Person "A" applying well known patterns created by Persons "other than A" to magnets, decals, air fresheners is not going to be copyrightable? 

A design patent consists of the visual ornamental characteristics embodied in, or applied to, an article of manufacture. A design for surface ornamentation is inseparable from the article to which it is applied and cannot exist alone. It must be a definite pattern of surface ornamentation, applied to an article of manufacture. Additionally, the design must be novel and the inventor must have invented the design.  Assuming those are met, OP will need to file a design application for each individual pattern on each individual item. 
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