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Posted by Derek on January 30, 2001 at 07:28:05:

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Trademark on Website names posted by M. Arthur Auslander on January 27, 2001 at 08:47:23:

: : : : : : : : Hypo-Situation

: : : : : : : : Company A owns a serivcemark on a name and actively promotes this within their store and on their websites under .com

: : : : : : : : Company B registers the same website under .net and operates a service business under the same name a parameters.

: : : : : : : : Company B is clearly in violation of the registered servicemark. However, what happens to the .net URL? Does company A have a right to aquire or take control over it?

: : : : : : : : Thank you

: : : : : : : Dear Jack,

: : : : : : : If it were that cut and dried there would be no lawyers.

: : : : : : : There are lots of little in facts that have to be considered, beside the Reality of cost.

: : : : : : : M. Arthur Auslander
: : : : : : : Auslander & Thomas-Intellectual Property Law Since 1909
: : : : : : : 505 Eighth Avenue, New York, NY 10018
: : : : : : : 212-594-6900, fax 212-244-0028, aus@auslander.com
: : : : : : : ELAINE's Workshop (sm)
: : : : : : : E arly L egal A dvice I s N ot E xpensive

: : : : :
: : : : : : The situation is cut and dry due to the trademark infringement, but the question lies in the web URL. I have read discussions by you in the past on this subject, but do not see where there is a statement or answer about the courts rulling on cybersquaters or someone registering under a known trademark .com vrs .net

: : : : : : Any advice is greatly appreciated and thank you for providing this service.

: : : : : : Jack D

: : : : : Dear Jack,

: : : : : I don't mind give helpful advice, free in this forum, but I'll damned, if I'm going to do reseach to answer questions. What is more cybersquating is a wild west show.

: : : : : M. Arthur Auslander
: : : : : Auslander & Thomas-Intellectual Property Law Since 1909
: : : : : 505 Eighth Avenue, New York, NY 10018
: : : : : 212-594-6900, fax 212-244-0028, aus@auslander.com
: : : : : ELAINE's Workshop (sm)
: : : : : E arly L egal A dvice I s N ot E xpensive

: : :
: : : : Dear M. Arthur,

: : : : Please do not take such a defense to this question. I am not asking for a pro-bono lawyer nor for you to research in countless hours of time.

: : : : I am asking your professional (yes, I realize you are a professional and time is money) opinion on what you know about cyber-laws. I understand that this is a crazy 'can-o-worms' that has been opened or Wild-West Show.

: : : : However, the question that is going to be asked time-and-timne again is the same. If the general public and Joe-Store-Owner (or web-site owner) does not know or understand where his/her trademark rights fall, then what is one to do?

: : : : Is it, in your opinion, worth hiring your services or the services of an IP Lawyer to check in to such a cause? Or, should one just sit and watch the Wild-West Showdown?

: : : : Jack

: : : : P.S. The Doctor metephore you use reminds me of the story my gradmother use to tell about a train mechanic. A steam locomotive breaks down, the workers do not know how to fix it, so a repairman is called in to fix the contraption.

: : : : After a careful look, the repairman removes a wooden mallet from his tool box and hits the steam engine once on the broiler, the train immediately starts working.

: : : : The repairman then hands the owner a bill for $500 (big money in those days). The owner has a fit! "$500 for that!" the man yells, "You hardly did a thing!".

: : : : The repaiman says, "It is not what I do, it is what I know."

: : : Dear Jack,

: : : Thanks for the story.

: : : The trouble with the hypo is that the facts need to be much more detailed in order to be able to be dealt with.

: : : M. Arthur Auslander
: : : Auslander & Thomas-Intellectual Property Law Since 1909
: : : 505 Eighth Avenue, New York, NY 10018
: : : 212-594-6900, fax 212-244-0028, aus@auslander.com
: : : ELAINE's Workshop (sm)
: : : E arly L egal A dvice I s N ot E xpensive

: :
: : Hi Arthur, Derek again, I have been following this thread. We have a similar situation, our service mark has been registered since 1982 and we have someone opperating under the same website name on dot net, we own the dot com. We have issued cease and disist letter with no response. Company is opperating within the same business field.

: : Is there a place on the net that clearly states in plain language our rights under our servicemark? If the business will not respond, I assume the next step is to employ the services of an IP lawyer or is there something else I can do?

: : Thanks

: Dear Derek,

: ICANN may be the source you are looking for. You ought to be able to get information through Network Solutions.

: From what you say the position looks strong if all the underlying fact match up to the law and proceedure.

: M. Arthur Auslander
: Auslander & Thomas-Intellectual Property Law Since 1909
: 505 Eighth Avenue, New York, NY 10018
: 212-594-6900, fax 212-244-0028, aus@auslander.com
: ELAINE's Workshop (sm)
: E arly L egal A dvice I s N ot E xpensive

Thank you! This was just the info I was looking for to better understand our situation and where we go from here.


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