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Posted by M. Arthur Auslander on August 24, 2003 at 15:16:23:

In Reply to: Re: 4th tier law schools...let me get this straight posted by James Ivey on August 24, 2003 at 13:22:06:

: I graduated from Boalt Hall (not Boult) and worked in a major IP firm for a few years and reviewed many resumes and interviewed many candidates.

: I'm sorry to spoil the "sour grapes" fest here, but it has very little to do with pedigree. I'll tell you what would settle the difference in your scenario more than anything else: a writing sample. A great writing sample.

: The last thing I want to have to do with a young associate is to teach her or him how to write well. That should be already within the candidate's skill set.

: I also must say that writing a patent application -- a good one -- requires large amounts of intense concentration and deep understanding (and no small amount of mental gymnastics and word-smithing). It's much harder than anything else I've done (and that includes write, manage, and maintain a software package with hundreds of thousands of lines of code).

: So, when you come with your resume in hand, you had better be sure that your writing sample is absolutely outstanding and that you can churn that type of work out, day in and day out. And your writing sample should be outstanding despite the fact that I have 20 or 30 writing samples on my desk from Boalt Hall, Stanford (also a good school), Harvard, and Yale. It's not enough to be top in your class at GGU, you have to beat out these 20-30 resumes/writing samples on my desk.

: For me, the bottom line is this: how much time will I have to spend re-writing the associate's work so that I don't have huge malpractice liability hanging out in the wind? and how soon will the associate get to a point at which I don't have to review the work at all?

: That's the reality.

: Regards.

: : Hi:

: : This is especially for the IP law firms out there. I'm completely puzzled. I previously posted something about 4th tiered law schools. If two candidates walked into your office and submitted resumes and had the following basic qualifications:

: : -Passed the state bar
: : -Passed the pat bar
: : -Both graduated with a decent GPA at law school

: : But...
: : -One candidate came from a 1st tiered law school (as Boult Hall, UW Law, etc), has zero to two patents under his/her belt and has little experience otherwise.

: : -The remaining candidate came from a 4th tier law school (GGU, Western Law, etc), has lots of engineering experience and has at least 20 plus patents under his/her belt).

: : The current consensus (from what I read on my previous post) was that the nod goes to the candidate with the 1st tier law degree.

: : Dumb question, but I would like to know "why????". Thanks.

Dear Mr. Ivey,
What does it matter how many patents an inventor gets? Is it not what happens to the patents that counts? My clients come to me for legal service, most of whom are not aware that I went to Harvard Law.

M. Arthur Auslander
Auslander & Thomas-Intellectual Property Law Since 1909
3008 Johnson Ave., New York, NY 10463
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