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Re: Need help with Patent Infringement
« Reply #15 on: Nov 21st, 2007, 2:36pm »
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on Nov 20th, 2007, 11:46pm, rougie wrote:
hello, my reply will be spread out on the next few posts!

 
Nothing wrong with venting
 
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Yes you are talking about the winny inventors! But for the ones that succeed, I think its more a question of timming and not effort

 
Its a question of having a legitimately marketable product, and exerting smart effort, IMO.  
 
 
 
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First, most inventors that invent complicated products as I am, in the fields of programming, electronics, chemical or any other scientific nature which takes a minimum of 5 to 8 years to develop, are individuals who truely devote themselves... agree? So your comment above, doesn't really apply to me or most persistant inventors.

 
True, though the process of inventing is separate from the process of marketing an invention - whether that means finding an acquirer or successfully starting your own business.
 
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Give me a comparison of how many times this happened versus the times that a big company crushes a small company or an inventor!!!

 
It might not happen often, but it does occasionally happen.  My only point is that its not so much a matter of the system favoring large companies (while I do agree the system could benefit from some reform) as it is attributable to the simple fact that there is power in numbers.  Thats life, not just inventing.  
 
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Take huge companies like Samsung or Panasonic etc... These companies once upon a time came up with the right product at the right time at the right place and made something out of it and I tip my hat to them. But now it seems that because of this historic moment of glory they had, they kept growing and today they take advantage and abuse their power to get whatever they want because they have money

 
Do they abuse their power?  Or do they simply take advantage of their extensive resources?  They may abuse their power at times, but if they do so its generally not done legally.
 
on Nov 21st, 2007, 12:23am, rougie wrote:
You know I have heard this a million times, "There is a slim to none chance of wining against a big company".  
 

 
Again, there is power in numbers.  It is not impossible to win against a big company though.  The story of Robert Kearns is interesting
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kearns
 
Had he found investment before entering litigation, and accepted settlement offers rather than aiming for more than $50 million, the ordeal would have been easier on him as well.
 
There are certainly cases where there is a high chance of winning against a big company, it just takes perserverance and smart action.  And, some inventors are able to license their products to large companies, and have not needed to enter litigation in order to profit.
 
on Nov 21st, 2007, 12:24am, rougie wrote:

 
can't prove infringment after 25K$ of court litigations, the hell with your infringment... I smell a rat, don't you! eh!

 
I don't think it would work so simply, but I don't argue that the system is currently perfect and cannot benefit from some reform
 
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Keeping up this thought of its all about money, money, money, then, the same 200 international big companies will always exist and inventors will always be poor but brilliant. Raw deal don't you think.

 
I would argue that if an inventor is truly brilliant and doesn't want to be poor, they will find a way to profit sufficiently from their invention(s).  So many have, Microsoft and Google are only two examples.  It might all be easier said than done, but again, thats life.
 
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My good freinds it has been a pleasure reminising with you, you all bring up strong points and I respect them, I just hope I can pull through with my invention someday.

 
I wish you luck
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Need help with Patent Infringement
« Reply #16 on: Nov 21st, 2007, 6:43pm »
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A bit off topic, but:
 ... if an inventor is truly brilliant and doesn't want to
 be poor, they will find a way to profit sufficiently from
 their invention(s).  So many have, Microsoft  ...
 
What the heck does being an inventor or avoiding being poor have to do with Microsoft?  Bill Gates was born with a silver spo0n in his mouth, and he has weak credentials as an inventor.
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« Reply #17 on: Nov 21st, 2007, 11:33pm »
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>There are certainly cases where there is a high chance of >winning against a big company, it just takes perserverance >and smart action.  And, some inventors are able to license >their products to large companies, and have not needed to >enter litigation in order to profit.  
 
Yeah, but I don't have the intention of licencing any of my product to any company. This is why I am pretty paranoid about all of this. I know my invention is good, and I would like to commercialize it myself. I don't know anymore, I guess I will need investors with deep pockets in case of an infringment issue.  
 
Or a good mentor to help me with all of this. Anyways I have 4 years into this, all I can do is continue learning about patent law which is really not my field!
 
So anyways thanks for your feedback, it was nice to get some things off my chest and I thankyou for listening!
 
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Re: Need help with Patent Infringement
« Reply #18 on: Nov 23rd, 2007, 3:54pm »
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on Nov 21st, 2007, 11:33pm, rougie wrote:
I don't know anymore, I guess I will need investors with deep pockets in case of an infringment issue.  

 
Or, if you find yourself facing an infringement issue and expensive litigation is required and unavoidable, you can simply seek an investor with deep pockets then.  And/or, you could develop business credit and that way if you needed you might be able to take out a large loan or credit line.  And/or, there are even some patent insurance companies out there now.  My point is simply that there are actual possibilities and if anybody has a good case and their will is strong enough I have confidence in their ability to make good things happen regardless of what they might face.  
 
While its understandable, no need to be paranoid...
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Re: Need help with Patent Infringement
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on Nov 21st, 2007, 6:43pm, Wiscagent wrote:

 
What the heck does being an inventor or avoiding being poor have to do with Microsoft?  Bill Gates was born with a silver spo0n in his mouth, and he has weak credentials as an inventor.

 
Might not be the most ideal example, but someone invented Microsoft's products early on, and I know he got laughed at trying to shop his stuff around in early days.  And even if he started out with a lot compared to many inventors, he ended up with a hell of a lot more than he started with.  But you have a point.
 
 
 
 
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