The Intellectual Property Law Server

Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register.
Jan 28th, 2023, 1:13am

Forums Forums Help Help Search Search Members Members Calendar Calendar Login Login Register Register
   Intellectual Property Forums
  
  
Patent Filing and Prosecution
(Moderators: Forum Admin, JimIvey, JSonnabend)
   Non Patent Literature for Information Disclosure
« Previous topic | Next topic »
Pages: 1 2 3  Reply Reply Send Topic Send Topic Print Print
   Author  Topic: Non Patent Literature for Information Disclosure  (Read 2150 times)
Wiscagent
Full Member
***




   


Posts: 843
Re: Non Patent Literature for Information Disclosu
« Reply #10 on: Aug 23rd, 2006, 2:23pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

As usual Jim, you make valid points; and I'm largely persuaded.
 
What I was thinking of are some applications - often translations of Japanese applications - that get carried away with adjectives and superlatives.  While I might describe an invention as "requiring low energy and having a high signal-to-noise ratio" some applications would be written "super low energy consumption with fantastic, zero distortion signal, perfect for any communication system."
 
To me that type of hype does nothing to strengthen, and may weaken, a patent application.
 
Rich T
IP Logged

Richard Tanzer
Patent Agent
JimIvey
Moderator
Senior Member
*****




  jamesdivey  
WWW

Posts: 2584
Re: Non Patent Literature for Information Disclosu
« Reply #11 on: Aug 23rd, 2006, 3:50pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Yeah, I agree, hyperbole is bad.  
 
"What the present invention achieves is a heretofore unrealized, surprising, and tantalizing result that the greatest minds of yesterday couldn't even dream of.  What follows is a surprising, unexpected, and unanticipated tale of discovery and invention that is rivaled by none.  In short, we've done no less than put a bicycle handlebar grip on the feather duster!!"
 
Annoying your reader, whether a patent examiner, juror, or judge, is bad.
 
Regards.
IP Logged

--
James D. Ivey
Law Offices of James D. Ivey
http://www.iveylaw.com
Jonathan
Full Member
***




   


Posts: 611
Re: Non Patent Literature for Information Disclosu
« Reply #12 on: Aug 23rd, 2006, 4:29pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify


I think I saw the bike grip duster in a recent issue of skymall magazine.
IP Logged
dab2d
Junior Member
**




   


Posts: 73
Re: Non Patent Literature for Information Disclosu
« Reply #13 on: Aug 27th, 2006, 10:55am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

on Aug 23rd, 2006, 12:55pm, JimIvey wrote:

Second, selling the invention can provide motivations for specific features to counter 103 (obviousness) rejections that suggest that the difference(s) between the claim and the prior art are mere design choices without any appreciable benefit.
 

 
Just to add to what Jim said...  
 
examiners will sometines give you a 103 rejection stating that the combination is obvious without art (it is obvious to use metal instead of wood)... However if you can point to a place in the specification where you solve a stated problem, it goes a long way in getting the examiner to remove the arguments.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
« Last Edit: Aug 28th, 2006, 7:38am by dab2d » IP Logged
Pages: 1 2 3  Reply Reply Send Topic Send Topic Print Print

« Previous topic | Next topic »
Powered by YaBB 1 Gold - SP 1.3.2!
Forum software copyright 2000-2004 Yet another Bulletin Board