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patag2001
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Re: Writing complex math equations
« Reply #5 on: Sep 26th, 2007, 2:47pm »
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In Microsoft Word:
 
First, click on Insert and then Object; and
 
Next, drag down to Microsoft Equation 3.0.
 
I hope this helps!
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Re: Writing complex math equations
« Reply #6 on: Sep 26th, 2007, 9:44pm »
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In some situations your client may be able to help.  Explain the problem to the inventor.  The inventor may be able to simplify the equations, perhaps by defining parts of equation as blocks.  Each block being defined as some combination of simpler terms.
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Re: Writing complex math equations
« Reply #7 on: Sep 26th, 2007, 10:59pm »
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Equations are easily made in latex. Does anyone know if latex files are accepted by the USPTO?
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Re: Writing complex math equations
« Reply #8 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 9:19am »
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I'd like to thank everyone for their input.  But, here is a summary of my situation:
 
(1) Word eqn. editor does not have enough horsepower for what I need.
 
(2) Mathtype (which created the simplified Word eqn. editor), believe it or not, does not have enough horsepower for what I need.
 
(3) The inventors I deal with are not cooperative in simplifying their math.  They expect me to do it.  I have done it in some instances, but that costs me mucho time (which I have to eat, since the jobs are flat rate).  Also, some inventors don't like me redefining their structure and notation.
 
(4) LaTex  files are what I am getting as input.  It does everything in multi-dimensional universes (real or imaginary) anyone could ever dream up.  I don't mind it because I used to compose my docs via troff on UNIX mainframes.  However, Word is the standard package used here.  I'd have lifetime security because no one else can edit the LaTex files.  But the files need to be editable by others. Also, our clients generally want electronic copies in Word.  I've tried a LaTex to Word eqn converter, but that's not adequate because Word eqn is not adequate.  Also people who have used it claim only ~80% success.
 
(5) So the open question is:  What process does the USPTO use to reformat the applications and what complexity can they handle before a graphical figure is required?  Thanks.
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Re: Writing complex math equations
« Reply #9 on: Sep 27th, 2007, 1:39pm »
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Maybe the Office of Patent Publication can help you out.
 
http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/pubs/
 
I suspect you will need to get past the initial technician that answers the phone but someone there out to be able to give you some insight.
 
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