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Ricky Williams
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Is there some hard and fast rule that you should not use "means for" in dependent method claims?
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JimIvey
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« Reply #1 on: May 8th, 2007, 6:17pm » |
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Yeah. "Means for" is structure. You can't mix structure and methods. 1. A method comprising: getting a homework assignment; performing the homework assignment; and providing results of the performing of the homework assignment. 2. The method of Claim 1 further comprising: means for writing. How does the means fit in with the steps of the method? I don't know. You could probably do this: 2. The method of Claim 1 wherein performing comprises: using means for writing. Although, I'd rather do this: 2. The method of Claim 1 wherein performing comprises writing. Regards.
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TataBoxInhibitor
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Re: Ricky
« Reply #2 on: May 8th, 2007, 6:50pm » |
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The sixth paragraph is implicated with regard to steps only when the steps plus function without acts are present. Method or process claims may therefore be written as a step for performing a specified function without the recital of acts in support of the function. O.I. Corp. V. Tekmar Co., 115 F.3d 1576, 42 USPQ2d 1777, 1781 (Fed. Cir. 1997)
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Isaac
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Re: Ricky
« Reply #3 on: May 9th, 2007, 6:09am » |
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Claims that describe a process performed with a novel/nonobvious apparatus may need to recite some of the structure of the apparatus. I suppose in such cases instance you could legitimately use "means for" in a method claim. As Jim suggests, means for is used to introduce a structural element described using functional language. For US practice you should not use "means for" in any claim unless you intend to invoke 35 USC 112, sixth paragraph.
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patentboymanusa
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"means for" should not be used, however, I am sure you can change that language to "the ability to" for the method and cover what you would like. Example: The method of claim 1, wherein the network includes means for communicating on a network. "The method of claim 1, wherein the network includes the ability to communicate on a network. Are there any problems with this?
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