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(Message started by: indylaw on Oct 1st, 2007, 9:58pm)

Title: 35yo new lawyer...want to start Purdue EE...
Post by indylaw on Oct 1st, 2007, 9:58pm
Hi everyone and thanks for all of the awesome input - I have learned a tremendous amount from just reading all of the posts.  Thanks again!

I am a 35yo new lawyer, and work in labor/employment and litigation.  I worked during law school for litigators also.  Graduated unremarkably in the middle of the class, from a midwestern school ranked consistently in the 70's. My undergrad degree is not science, but I do have a lot of science coursework, and enjoy it very much.  

I have always wanted to do patent law, for various reasons.  The least of which now is to improve my professional prospects and earning potential. (Note to current or prospective law students: make your grades your absolute FIRST priority during law school rather than pulling all-nighters for your firm - or all-nighters doing other activities which shall remain nameless...)

At any rate, I have recently been accepted to the undergrad EE program at Purdue.  I am very interested in trying to get the degree in the evenings, while maintaining employment.  I have a gf but that is it as far as family commitments.  

Questions:

1) Job prospects.  What are the prospects for a guy pushing 40, with 4 or 5 years of litigation experience and a newly minted EE from Purdue?  Also, will good grades from the EE degree in any way mitigate the mediocre grades from law school?  What size firm could I reasonably expect to work at?

2) Age.  Is my age a factor?

3) Feasibility.  Is it a reasonable proposition to get an EE degree from Purdue, studying at night, part-time?

and finally,

4) Age old question - is EE still condsidered the most marketable engineering degree to get?  What about Biomed?

Thank you very much for your input everyone - it is greatly appreciated - !  


Title: Re: 35yo new lawyer...want to start Purdue EE...
Post by indylaw on Oct 3rd, 2007, 6:47pm
anybody care to throw a few thoughts out there... :-/  ?


thanks !

Title: Re: 35yo new lawyer...want to start Purdue EE...
Post by patent_type on Oct 3rd, 2007, 7:34pm
Here are some SWAGs from a pimply teenager stalling on his geometry homework:

1) decent job prospects.  EE grades do not count worth a hill o' beans when interviewing for patent jobs.  Are you interviewing for a lawyer job or an engineering job?  BIGFLAW is hard to break into for the older set, because BIGFLAW wants more than most of the older set want to give in terms of commitment.  Just a generalization, not an absolute truism, but the BIGFLAW folks go by the percentages.  Still, give it a shot, it may work.  Helps if your family owns a 5+ percentage stake in Dow Chemical, for example.    ;)

2)  yes.  But age cannot legally be a discriminatory factor, so nobody will actually *say* yes.

3)  depends on you.

4)  EE is a background in demand.  Biomed is less so (but more so in some quarters).  But bio types without a bio PhD are at a disadvantage.

OK, back to c^2 = a^2 + b^2.

Title: Re: 35yo new lawyer...want to start Purdue EE...
Post by plex on Oct 3rd, 2007, 7:47pm
This wasn't one of the things you have asked, but, just a word of warning, EE is a difficult degree and is very likely different than what you did in undergrad and is very different from law school. Just be prepared to learn a lot of new things in a style you have not encountered before.

Title: Re: 35yo new lawyer...want to start Purdue EE...
Post by jackdaw on Oct 4th, 2007, 12:01pm
I'm a student currently attending law school with a Undergrad EE degree from one of the top 10 engineering public schools in the nation.  As far as what the person above me said, i found engineering less time consuming than law school so far has been for me.  If you have any sort of aptitude for higher math (differentials, multivariable, etc...) I'd say if you think you can actually make more as a patent lawyer go for it.  Engineering is hard, and different than law school, but if you have the drive you can do it.

Title: Re: 35yo new lawyer...want to start Purdue EE...
Post by Boilermaker on Oct 4th, 2007, 1:48pm
Hi, I recently graduated from Purdue Electrical Engineering. Purdue is a great school, but be prepared to work hard. One problem I would note with your plan is to verify that Purdue actually has a night program for electrical engineering. At the West Lafayette main campus, I am 99% sure they do not. You would need to attend courses in the day, and with labs etc. it would be difficult (to say the least) to work full time as well.

If you are looking to attend a sattelite campus such as IPFW, Purdue Calumet, or IUPUI, then they may have night programs, but be aware that that although you receive a Purdue degree from these places, most prudent employers (engineering or law firms) do not recognize degrees from the satellite campuses with quite the same respect as from the main campus. Nevertheless, if you are able to do this that would be great! Ultimately I believe that the best individuals will make it happen for themselves, regardless of their circumstance if they have the desire. Good luck!

Title: Re: 35yo new lawyer...want to start Purdue EE...
Post by biopico on Oct 4th, 2007, 4:28pm

on 10/01/07 at 21:58:25, indylaw wrote:
4) Age old question - is EE still condsidered the most marketable engineering degree to get?  What about Biomed?


Biomed is a great area to be!


Title: Re: 35yo new lawyer...want to start Purdue EE...
Post by ChiefJusticeRoberts on Oct 4th, 2007, 10:21pm
I am an attorney currently doing a second bachelor's degree from a top 25 university in EE. It's very hard. You have multiple labs every week, and you must be good at or develop good math skills. The work load is rigorous. Also, be prepared to deal with bad teachers - many EE and engineering professors are not good at communicating like law school professors. Lastly, be advised that doing an EE part time may take a long time to complete.

Title: Re: 35yo new lawyer...want to start Purdue EE...
Post by interestinginformation on Oct 17th, 2007, 6:47pm

on 10/01/07 at 21:58:25, indylaw wrote:
Hi everyone and thanks for all of the awesome input - I have learned a tremendous amount from just reading all of the posts. Thanks again!

I am a 35yo new lawyer, and work in labor/employment and litigation. I worked during law school for litigators also. Graduated unremarkably in the middle of the class, from a midwestern school ranked consistently in the 70's. My undergrad degree is not science, but I do have a lot of science coursework, and enjoy it very much.

I have always wanted to do patent law, for various reasons. The least of which now is to improve my professional prospects and earning potential. (Note to current or prospective law students: make your grades your absolute FIRST priority during law school rather than pulling all-nighters for your firm - or all-nighters doing other activities which shall remain nameless...)

At any rate, I have recently been accepted to the undergrad EE program at Purdue. I am very interested in trying to get the degree in the evenings, while maintaining employment. I have a gf but that is it as far as family commitments.

Questions:

1) Job prospects. What are the prospects for a guy pushing 40, with 4 or 5 years of litigation experience and a newly minted EE from Purdue? Also, will good grades from the EE degree in any way mitigate the mediocre grades from law school? What size firm could I reasonably expect to work at?

2) Age. Is my age a factor?

3) Feasibility. Is it a reasonable proposition to get an EE degree from Purdue, studying at night, part-time?

and finally,

4) Age old question - is EE still condsidered the most marketable engineering degree to get? What about Biomed?

Thank you very much for your input everyone - it is greatly appreciated - !



How did you get accepted to an EE program?  Didnt you already go to undergrad?  Is this possible?   How exactly did you do it?



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