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(Message started by: sd on Jul 12th, 2007, 11:16pm)

Title: patent agent and scientist
Post by sd on Jul 12th, 2007, 11:16pm
I am aware that if one works as a patent agent he cannot work as a scientist and publish patents. But can we still take up another part time career (while working as a patent agent) which involves research work where we are not required to write patents. Or is it that any work related to scientist/research position is a complete bar once you take up a job as a patent agent.

Title: Re: patent agent and scientist
Post by pentazole on Jul 12th, 2007, 11:44pm

on 07/12/07 at 23:16:19, sd wrote:
I am aware that if one works as a patent agent he cannot work as a scientist and publish patents.


That's not true.

Title: Re: patent agent and scientist
Post by asdfg on Jul 13th, 2007, 12:46am
Please clarify . Can one work as a scientist and also a patent agent at the same time.

Title: Re: patent agent and scientist
Post by prity_khastgir on Jul 13th, 2007, 5:49am
hello everyone
I am an Indian patent agent with background of biotechnology and foodtechnology.

Title: Re: patent agent and scientist
Post by pentazole on Jul 13th, 2007, 10:44am

on 07/13/07 at 00:46:27, asdfg wrote:
Please clarify . Can one work as a scientist and also a patent agent at the same time.


Well what is your situation specifically?  are you a scientist who wants to do patent work on the side?  or a patent agent who wants to have his own venture?

Title: Re: patent agent and scientist
Post by Dr. Chitra Savangikar on Jul 15th, 2007, 7:23am
You can work in both the capacities as a Scientists as well as a Patent Agent. I work mainly with pharma companies giving directions to their R & D as consulting scientists and also do their patent drafting as well as other patent related work.

Dr. Chitra Savangikar

Title: Re: patent agent and scientist
Post by still_studying on Jul 15th, 2007, 7:12pm
I think you're misunderstanding that you can't work as an employee of the USPTO while also being an assignee or inventor having patents and filing applications.  (I presume that working for the USPTO would also prohibit working as a scientist who researches potentially patentable subject matter for outside firms.)  It's a conflict-of-interest issue solely for USPTO employees, who have access to new technologies that companies are just developing.

As a patent agent/attorney, you can still work on your own stuff, as long as you're not in conflict with your clients' interests.  If a client came to you with something really great, and you came up with an improvement, it probably wouldn't sit well with the client for you to patent it and try to license it back to them.

Then again, I'm assuming you are in the U.S. -- if you're somewhere else, different rules may apply.

Title: Re: patent agent and scientist
Post by sd on Jul 16th, 2007, 1:20am
Consider a situation where  a person (in US) works as a scientist for  company A. Can he work simultaneously as  a Patent agent - not for A, but as an independent contractor? Is it not possible that he may get to read inventions of companies which are competitors of A and the inventions are related to his  field of work?

Title: Re: patent agent and scientist
Post by Wiscagent on Jul 16th, 2007, 11:24am
There are potential conflict of interest issues for any patent agent or attorney who has more than one client or employer.  In the scenario presented the scientist / agent should inform company A of his or her "moonlighting".

Title: Re: patent agent and scientist
Post by Isaac on Jul 16th, 2007, 12:15pm

on 07/16/07 at 11:24:42, Wiscagent wrote:
There are potential conflict of interest issues for any patent agent or attorney who has more than one client or employer. In the scenario presented the scientist / agent should inform company A of his or her "moonlighting".


In particular, it is always possible that a company may want to move into an area where the scientist has been working as a patent agent. The resulting conflict could put the scientist's day job at risk if the scientist has been moonlighting.

Title: Re: patent agent and scientist
Post by pentazole on Jul 18th, 2007, 3:09pm

on 07/16/07 at 01:20:33, sd wrote:
Consider a situation where a person (in US) works as a scientist for company A. Can he work simultaneously as a Patent agent - not for A, but as an independent contractor? Is it not possible that he may get to read inventions of companies which are competitors of A and the inventions are related to his field of work?


Exactly as Wiscagent said, which is why I asked for a specific situation. If you are a scientist, sure you can do work (on your own time) doing patents for others. Before discussing the invention with a potential client, you ask for a brief background that doesn't necessarily disclose anything about the instant invention, and you decide if there's a conflict of interest. Something along the lines "I would like to hire you in patent prosecution matters regarding a plastic bottle from which you can drink without your lips touching any plastic" would suffice as background. If you are working as a polymer engineer in innovative blow molding container design, you most likely shouldn't be representing this client.

Title: Re: patent agent and scientist
Post by santel51 on Jul 19th, 2007, 3:19am
hello friends...

i am from india having master degree in science field and also wrking as a patent analyst and drafter in a pharma company....

you can contact me for any patent related work specifically for pharmaceutical field...




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