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(Message started by: Guest on Sep 25th, 2006, 6:28pm)

Title: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by Guest on Sep 25th, 2006, 6:28pm
Does anyone have an idea of what the starting salary is for a technical specialist (Biology Ph.D.) in law firms (especially Boston area)?  Please assume no patent law experience and no patent bar exam.  Thanks for any input!  :)

Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by BioPHD on Sep 25th, 2006, 11:52pm
seconded.  I'd be curious to hear about boston and new york.  Is there that much of a difference?

Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by biopico on Sep 26th, 2006, 7:07am
In the year 2004, I was told by a person who got Ph.D. in Mol Biol and got a job in a lawfirm in New York.  He was attending an evening law school.  His starting salary was $70K at that time.


Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by chem on Sep 26th, 2006, 12:58pm
I know from a friend that starts this year with a big NY law firm as Tech Advisor that he gets 80.000$ (+law school tuition).

Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by De on Sep 26th, 2006, 9:06pm
If you have PhD and no patent experience, the current market starting compensation is 95k in salary, 25-30k in tuition, and low billable hours.    

If you have law degree, an undergrad degree, and no patent or legal experience, the starting salary is 135k and upto 40k bonus.

This is not a lab job and your work is not for "charity"...!  I hope, you guys won't sell your background cheap...??!!

Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by sandnbb on Sep 27th, 2006, 5:54pm
How about a MS degree with 8 years of research experience and two years of IP experience as tech advisor?  How much should I expect to get now that I have a registration number?

Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by BioPHD on Sep 27th, 2006, 6:41pm
not that I don't like where De's message is going, but does this seem high to anyone else, even for boston or new york?


on 09/26/06 at 21:06:55, De wrote:
If you have PhD and no patent experience, the current market starting compensation is 95k in salary, 25-30k in tuition, and low billable hours.    

If you have law degree, an undergrad degree, and no patent or legal experience, the starting salary is 135k and upto 40k bonus.

This is not a lab job and your work is not for "charity"...!  I hope, you guys won't sell your background cheap...??!!


Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by Guest on Sep 27th, 2006, 6:49pm
De - Do you know what type of billing rate goes with that salary?  What do you mean by low billing hours?  Thanks!

Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by Isaac on Sep 27th, 2006, 8:05pm
135k for a starting attorney at a large firm is actually a little low for NYC, but about right for DC.

Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by Guest on Sep 27th, 2006, 8:16pm
If you are interviewing with someone with a strong technical background, you should not be surprised if you are asked technical questions.  Sometimes they will be asked to give you a chance to show your oral skills, on material with which you should be comfortable.  Other times, technical questions are asked to assess how you think, e.g., you could be asked about an obstacle that you overcame in a research project, to show how deeply you think about difficult problems.  It is your problem solving skills from doing research that will enable you to succeed, and technical questions may be used to probe such skills.  If you are interviewing with someone who is relatively new to their job, they may be more comfortable discussing technical matters as well.  I would guess that most questions will not be technical, but I know several people who ask them at interviews.  Most questions will likely be like those noted by Biopico and the others, and I agree with Ethan: don't fake it if you don't have an answer.
Good luck!

Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by Guest on Sep 27th, 2006, 8:18pm
Oops -- I posted my last message to the wrong message list --sorry.

Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by Wiscagent on Sep 27th, 2006, 9:11pm
I came across a relevant posting on in the "misc.int-property" newsgroup:

 I am currently in my second year of law school at a well known Tier 2
 school in Los Angeles.  My grades are decent--Top 10%.  I have a BS and
 MS in Electrical Engineering from UC Berkeley, and have about 2 years
 work experience.  …all of these firms pay the same base salary of
 $135,000.  Some firms also offer starting bonuses, particularly to patent
 lawyers,…about $10k.

Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by chem on Sep 28th, 2006, 10:51pm

on 09/27/06 at 18:49:27, Guest wrote:
De - Do you know what type of billing rate goes with that salary?  What do you mean by low billing hours?  Thanks!


1500-1600 h/y.

Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by SeanUMD on Oct 17th, 2006, 12:58pm
Anymore information would be appreciated regarding this subject--Technology specialist salaries

I've interviewed at a few law firms and I'm waiting to hear back from them.  I'd like to know appropriate salaries for this position.  I've been told as the previous posts stated that technology specialist in large firms make $80,000 -90,000 regardless of geographical location---regardless of whether the large firms are in Boston, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, DC,  etc.  Is this true and does this salary range sound correct?

Thank you!

Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by alchemnil on Oct 18th, 2006, 7:34pm
Hi,
I am finishing my PhD in chemistry (materials science).

Just like SeanUMD I am planning to start applying for law firms, start studying for patent bar exam, and eventually go to part time law school. Any comments about this plan?

Also, any tips on how to prepare for those interviews given that I have no background/knowledge about this field (apart from reading patents for my research)?

Any inputs will be highly appreciated.

Thanks

Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by smgsmc on Oct 21st, 2006, 11:06pm
Gee, does bio pay more?  I have a PhD in physics.  About a year ago, I spoke to a lawyer in a large IP law firm in DC to get some background info.  At the time I was working in a large telcom corporation which outsourced a good chunk of work to the law firm.  A patent attorney in my company put me in touch with an attorney who would give me straight answers.  Since I didn't have previous patent experience, he told me that my starting salary would be in the 55 - 60 K range.

Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by smgsmc on Oct 21st, 2006, 11:08pm
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Title: Re: Tech. Specialist Starting Salary?
Post by smgsmc on Oct 21st, 2006, 11:12pm

on 10/21/06 at 23:06:39, smgsmc wrote:
Gee, does bio pay more?  I have a PhD in physics.  About a year ago, I spoke to a lawyer in a large IP law firm in DC to get some background info.  At the time I was working in a large telcom corporation which outsourced a good chunk of work to the law firm.  A patent attorney in my company put me in touch with an attorney who would give me straight answers.  Since I didn't have previous patent experience, he told me that my starting salary would be in the 55 - 60 K range.


I forgot to mention that I have 23 yrs experience in industry, not fresh out of grad school.



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