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(Message started by: M.Duffy on Jun 10th, 2006, 1:27pm)

Title: Career Change - Patent Bar Worthwhile?
Post by M.Duffy on Jun 10th, 2006, 1:27pm
I have a general question about taking the patent bar post law school that I hope someone Ďout thereí can shed some light on.
First, my background: MS in Biology with 2 years post undergraduate experience working in microbiology. Graduated from law school in 2002 (LS is ranked in the 20-30 range according to US News). Currently working for the Federal Government as an appellate attorney before an Article I court.  Recently Iíve been thinking about taking the patent bar.
Considering Iíve been out of law school for almost 4 years and havenít been practicing patent law Ė would taking the patent bar at this point be useless in helping me get a patent law position in the private sector?

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Career Change - Patent Bar Worthwhile?
Post by RMissimer on Jun 12th, 2006, 4:03am
The patent bar content has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the material you learned in IP classes.  These are the rules and regulations related to contact with the USPTO.  In the exam I took there were no claims drafted, no amendments, or the like.

Take a review class/seminar a pick up the registration.  If you don't like doing that kind of work (once you get started),  then don't take on any more.  Registration itself doesn't cost anything (as a reoccurring cost).  So, what the heck.

Title: Re: Career Change - Patent Bar Worthwhile?
Post by Brendan on Jun 30th, 2006, 11:23am
Can anyone else elaborate on this post?

I recently graduated from law school, passed the PA bar but the market is horrific out here.

I have a BS in biochem undergrad from pitt.  I am interested in doing patent law in the bio/chem fields and i am also interested in, hopefully, more job opportunities that might come with passing the patent bar.  

would this be the case?  i would be willing to relocate, is it worth my time to take the patent bar at this point?  I dont want to spend the money on the course and take the time to study only to be in the same boat that i am in now, having a hard time finding a job.

Title: Re: Career Change - Patent Bar Worthwhile?
Post by Brendan on Jun 30th, 2006, 11:24am
Can anyone else elaborate on this post?

I recently graduated from law school, passed the PA bar but the market is horrific out here.

I have a BS in biochem undergrad from pitt.  I am interested in doing patent law in the bio/chem fields and i am also interested in, hopefully, more job opportunities that might come with passing the patent bar.  

would this be the case?  i would be willing to relocate, is it worth my time to take the patent bar at this point?  I dont want to spend the money on the course and take the time to study only to be in the same boat that i am in now, having a hard time finding a job.

Title: Re: Career Change - Patent Bar Worthwhile?
Post by guest on Jun 30th, 2006, 2:42pm
<< I have a BS in biochem undergrad from pitt.  I am interested in doing patent law in the bio/chem fields and i am also interested in, hopefully, more job opportunities that might come with passing the patent bar. >>

The patent bar is only really useful and necessary if you want to do patent prosecution.  If you're interested in patent litigation, then a technical background would help (though not necessary) and the patent bar wouldn't hurt (though, again, not necessary).  The patent market really isn't that "hot" right now unless you have an EE or CS background.  Otherwise, more and more firms are showing a strong preference for patent types with "advanced degrees" (i.e. MS or PhD) for their prosecution business.  You might consider applying to the PTO as a patent examiner.  I've heard that a couple year's worth of experience there can open some doors.

Title: Re: Career Change - Patent Bar Worthwhile?
Post by Bill Richards on Jul 2nd, 2006, 8:45am
I decided to attend law school as a [late] second career.  I wasn't sure what area I want to practice in, but took the patent bar because I had a summer off near the end of my law school.  It turned out to be the best move I've ever made in this area.  It opened up all kinds of opportunities I would not have had at "my age".  But, it's got to be something you like, or it's not worth it.  I also think the patent bar and some prosecution experience help in lititation.  Reverse holds true, also.

Title: Re: Career Change - Patent Bar Worthwhile?
Post by TataBoxInhibitor on Jul 5th, 2006, 5:58pm

on 06/10/06 at 13:27:38, M.Duffy wrote:
I have a general question about taking the patent bar post law school that I hope someone Ďout thereí can shed some light on.
First, my background: MS in Biology with 2 years post undergraduate experience working in microbiology. Graduated from law school in 2002 (LS is ranked in the 20-30 range according to US News). Currently working for the Federal Government as an appellate attorney before an Article I court. †Recently Iíve been thinking about taking the patent bar.
Considering Iíve been out of law school for almost 4 years and havenít been practicing patent law Ė would taking the patent bar at this point be useless in helping me get a patent law position in the private sector?

Thanks in advance.


If you get a kick out of innovation, you will think it is pretty exciting.  It can be quite challenging learning a new art and trying to protect it, of course there are some limits to that.  On the other side, being presented with variations on the same theme may get somewhat tedious.



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