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chasmebuddoor
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Is PTO farming out?
« on: Apr 25th, 2007, 9:30pm »
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Is the PTO farming out searching and examination of select applications and to whom?
 
Does anyone know the reputation of such firms-what is to say they are capable of paying your paycheck-what if the PTO pulls out of the contract?
 
What terms and conditions should you emphasize in your contract with such firms?
 
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formerexaminerdude
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Re: Is PTO farming out?
« Reply #1 on: Apr 26th, 2007, 10:12am »
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The PTO are in a pilot program to farm out PCT search reports and written opinions.  The firms that are participating in the program are IP Landon (Alexandria, VA) and Cardinal Law (Chicago, ILL).  
 
In terms of paychecks, this is just like any other private sector gig - engineering or law - it all depends on contracts with customers, so if there's no business / no contract ---- that means no paycheck & job.
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Re: Is PTO farming out?
« Reply #2 on: Apr 26th, 2007, 4:13pm »
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Thanks for your response.  Are you aware of anyone with experience working for Cardinal Law? Googling I located a "shady" offer letter from cardinal.  Would you care to comment?  Have you seen anything like it?
 
Pasted below is the letter-
 
We would like to welcome you to Cardinal Law Group. This letter serves to co
nfirm your offer of employment, to provide some details of the offer, and to
explain a bit of the upcoming process.
 
As discussed, your salary will be variable based on production. Your primary
role will be to provide search/opinions in accordance with our PTO contract
, but we anticipate opportunities in the coming year for you also to work on
applications for other clients. For example, based on an average production
of 23 PCT search/opinions completed per
 
month for 12 months, you would receive annual salary of $82,800. The amount  
of each paycheck will be determined based on production during the previous  
pay period.
 
Health, dental, and profit sharing benefits will also be provided based on a
minimum
 
production threshold. The initial minimum production threshold is ten search
/opinions per month, but this threshold may be adjusted on a semi-annual bas
is. You will receive
 
written notification of any adjustments to this threshold.
 
Training materials will be available by email and in our online help section
.
 
A few further details we’ll be contacting you about: setting up your VPN co
nnection, personal and family information form, Cardinal Law Group NDA and P
TO Oath. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at any ti
me. We all look forward to working with you.
 
Thanks,
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Re: Is PTO farming out?
« Reply #3 on: Apr 26th, 2007, 5:52pm »
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So if you catch the flu and can't work for a week you won't be paid?
 
That would suck.
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stillstudying
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Re: Is PTO farming out?
« Reply #4 on: Apr 26th, 2007, 8:09pm »
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on Apr 26th, 2007, 5:52pm, Jonathan wrote:
So if you catch the flu and can't work for a week you won't be paid?
 
That would suck.

Same as any other contract job, you get paid by how much you work.  That's fine if the estimates are honest.  The first job I held after graduation was with a company that paid hourly and gave an estimated "salary" based on 2200 billable hours per year;  the assignments I got only resulted in about 1800 billable hours.  Hourly is lousy if you work fast;  piecework is lousy if they saddle you with impossible tasks/clients.
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