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Isaac
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Re: Period Between July and Novemeber
« Reply #5 on: Jul 31st, 2006, 4:07pm »
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on Jul 31st, 2006, 3:10pm, wallflower wrote:
 If they don't bring it up and send me a transcript after the interview, I get the impression that there is something hide.

 
Makes sense to me wally!
 
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Re: Period Between July and Novemeber
« Reply #6 on: Jul 31st, 2006, 7:27pm »
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Do grades reflect your ability to perform your job as a patent lawyer? I am not sure! I had seen many top exam crackers doing low quality work in big firms!  (by the way, I was one of those exam crackers!!).
 
Is there a "rational relation" between your grade in 3 hr final exam and patent lawyer tasks? Its just amazing that people (lawyers), without much thinking, ask questions on grades! Howabout his past performance of getting into Cornell's BSME progam! Does his fulltime software experience count?
 
I used to interview law students! I was looking for good attitude, presentability, totality of resume, track record of accomplishments (not just school grades), and interest in patent law!
 
 
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Re: Period Between July and Novemeber
« Reply #7 on: Aug 9th, 2006, 2:29pm »
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Thank you all for your responses.  Just to clarify, I was referring to applying for Summer Associate positions during law school, not after graduation.  
 
I agree with everyone with regard to being upfront about grades (I have never hidden my bad grades - just tried not to draw attention to something negative during the interview).  However, one of the partners during my second round of interviews flat out told me that he wouldn't have even called me for a first round had he seen my transcript ahead of time.  I used that opportunity to explain the circumstances and he seemed convinced at the time. But the end result was a rejection three days later.  It makes sense too, because if there is another person who does NOT have the problem of bad 2nd year grades, then why would they hire me over him.
 
Going forward though, I will send my transcripts with the initial submission but include my 'defense' in the cover letter itself.
 
But as Dr. V stated, doesnt my professional background, Cornell education, passing the patent bar and going to law school while working full-time count for anything?  Is there a way to get feedback from the people you interview with to see why you were rejected?  That will at least help the candidates figure out if its their interview skills that need work or their credentials.
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