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Somebody knows the answer: PhD vs JD Offer
« on: Nov 29th, 2005, 6:31pm »
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Do scientific advisor/technology specialist salaries for physical science phd's come close to or even match JD associate starting salaries at IP firms?
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Re: Somebody knows the answer: PhD vs JD Offer
« Reply #1 on: Nov 29th, 2005, 6:38pm »
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on Nov 29th, 2005, 6:31pm, help wrote:
Do scientific advisor/technology specialist salaries for physical science phd's come close to or even match JD associate starting salaries at IP firms?

 
my guess would be that they might come close initially, maybe only 10-15% less, but won't keep up. A jd salary will go up might more rapidly. Of course that depends on the area of expertise - for computer science or engineering a PhD probably doesn't mean much.
 
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Re: Somebody knows the answer: PhD vs JD Offer
« Reply #2 on: Nov 30th, 2005, 11:45am »
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I can't speak to the physical sciences in particular, but I don't think tech specs are paid as much as 1st year associates.  This is based on a sample size of one, but I know of one firm that lists its starting salary for new associates at $90,000 on its website, but pays around $50-60K for tech specs.  This may be different in different parts of the country, or for different technical areas, but my guess is that it is not.  The reason is probably that while you probably have more technical expertise than the JDs, there are lots of things you can't do that a JD can (licensing agreements is one example) AND if you are just a tech spec (as opposed to a patent agent) there's even more you can't do on your own.  I think guest is right that even if you did start near the range a 1st year associate would get, you are not going to get the same type of raises they will.  
 
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Re: Somebody knows the answer: PhD vs JD Offer
« Reply #3 on: Nov 30th, 2005, 8:26pm »
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I don't have any first hand knowledge, but here is an anecdote.  One of my law school
classmates with a biology degree described getting a spectacular series of raises after passing the state and patent bars.  That suggest to me that there was a significant difference in salary for having a PhD vs. having a JD.
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Re: Somebody knows the answer: PhD vs JD Offer
« Reply #4 on: Dec 1st, 2005, 9:27am »
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on Nov 30th, 2005, 11:45am, Eliz wrote:
I can't speak to the physical sciences in particular, but I don't think tech specs are paid as much as 1st year associates.  This is based on a sample size of one, but I know of one firm that lists its starting salary for new associates at $90,000 on its website, but pays around $50-60K for tech specs.  This may be different in different parts of the country, or for different technical areas, but my guess is that it is not.  The reason is probably that while you probably have more technical expertise than the JDs, there are lots of things you can't do that a JD can (licensing agreements is one example) AND if you are just a tech spec (as opposed to a patent agent) there's even more you can't do on your own.  I think guest is right that even if you did start near the range a 1st year associate would get, you are not going to get the same type of raises they will.  
 

 
When i said 10-15% less i was thinking a tech-spec with AND a patent agent as well. My bad. I doubt a tech-spec without the ability to prosecute before the PTO would be more than Eliz said.
 
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