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Dean
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Patent Attorney Job Market Improving??
« on: Jun 16th, 2005, 8:17am »
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I would appreciate comments/critique about job prospects for licensed patent attorneys without practice experience.
 
Relevant background:
 
2002 honors graduate from top 20 IP law school. 7 CALI awards.
 
Passed both state Bar and USPTO exam on first effort.
 
BSEET, MBA, ASCIS (2).
 
20+ years engineering experience in electrical/computer arts, including both hardware and software design.
 
10 years automotive experience with major domestic manufacturer.
 
No legal practice experience.
 
55 years-old male caucasian.
 
Having been unable to find legal employment after over two years of effort, I would like to hear relevant comments. Obviously my age is the barrier, as there are no skeletons in the closet and my educational and experiential records are both excellent. Is this hopeless?
 
Thanks in advance for all comments/advice.
 
Dean
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Re: Patent Attorney Job Market Improving??
« Reply #1 on: Jun 16th, 2005, 9:00am »
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Have you tried looking for academic or industry positions in IP strategy or licensing?  These positions may be in a legal group, but are more likely to be in engineering or R&D.  Most of the opportunities would be in large corporations that have significant patent portfolios.  
 
From time-to-time I see help wanted ads for "patent strategists", "intellectual property managers" and the like.  Your combination of industrial experience + legal training might be valuable for such jobs.
 
Wishing you success,
 
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Re: Patent Attorney Job Market Improving??
« Reply #2 on: Jun 16th, 2005, 6:52pm »
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Speaking of which does anyone know of any litigation positions for a 2003 grad with an M.S. Biotechnology and B.S. Biochemistry.  I have been trying the DC market and there is not too much....
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Re: Patent Attorney Job Market Improving??
« Reply #3 on: Jun 16th, 2005, 8:56pm »
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I find it a bit interesting the facts you consider relevant.
MBA, Male Caucasian, passed state and patent bar on first
attempt.  I think those things are of little relevance.  Huge
amounts of industry experience are not necessarily that attractive.
I think you need to get some experience and perhaps be prepared
to take a stab at being your own employer.  Letting your age
pile up without getting experience really is not working for you.
 
I'm a little younger than you, but still over 50.  I got some mentoring from
some practitioners who nursed me through some application prep
work, did a year at the PTO, and managed to land a job.  I
found that with some experience, my prospects picked up considerably.
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Dean
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Re: Patent Attorney Job Market Improving??
« Reply #4 on: Jun 17th, 2005, 7:30am »
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Thanks for the advise/critique.
 
I have thought about the strategy/management arena and even managed to secure a phone interview for such a position with a sizeable corporation. Interestingly, the job was filled by a 27 year-old law school classmate with no experience and only average academic credentials.
 
I included the MC comment because it appears clearly relevant as evidenced by my knowledge of the backgrounds of several who have secured positions for which I interviewed and/or applied.
 
Apparently I have been naive about the benefits of significant engineering experience. I have heard from others as well that this may actually be a disadvantage rather than an advantage.
 
AS to the PTO: I have applied for about 12-15 positions at the PTO over the last 2 1/2 years without a single reply, and have stopped applying. I have heard from others that one needs inside assistance which I do not have. Is this so?
 
Clearly the mentoring/practice experience is good advice, and I am attempting to work something out in this area. My options are very limited, however, as I am employed full-time outside of the legal profession in order to maintain health care coverage. Work and my nearly 2 1/2 hour commute each day leaves little time for anything else.
 
Again, thanks for the reality check.
 
Dean
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