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Re: Appplying for jobs before receiving registrati
« Reply #5 on: Sep 21st, 2006, 11:32am »
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on Sep 21st, 2006, 10:35am, smgsmc wrote:

 
 
Hi.  This is another issue that has confused me.  If I go to interviews while I'm doing volunteer (for experience or kicks or pocket change or whatever) work for one firm, my understanding is that I need to disclose the projects I'm working on.  Is this true? If so, this may create problems if there is conflict or potential conflict with jobs that the firm (that I'm interviewing with) may have...leading to another strike against me, in addition to my 0 experience.  Any thoughts here?   I'm not talking about experienced agents or attorneys being recruited by other firms, but novices like me trying to get my foot in the door without old baggage.

 
My opinion is that any experience a novice can get is going to outweight the negative effect of any possible conflict.   In fact, if you end up doing cutting edge for a client so large that one firm or company is frightened off by the potential conflict, that probably makes you attractive to someone else.
 
I wouldn't worry about creating a conflict unless you have a particular employment situation in mind involving  
a particular technical area.
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Re: Appplying for jobs before receiving registrati
« Reply #6 on: Sep 21st, 2006, 12:54pm »
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on Sep 21st, 2006, 11:32am, Isaac wrote:

 
My opinion is that any experience a novice can get is going to outweight the negative effect of any possible conflict.   In fact, if you end up doing cutting edge for a client so large that one firm or company is frightened off by the potential conflict, that probably makes you attractive to someone else.
 
I wouldn't worry about creating a conflict unless you have a particular employment situation in mind involving  
a particular technical area.

 
 
Hi Isaac.  Once again, thanks.  Assuming I'm getting experience at one firm, what is my responsibility for any disclosure of existing work when I go on interviews?  My background is in semiconductors and telcom.  When I interview for those jobs, my duty is *not* to disclose details.  For example, I can say I'm doing systems engineering for wireless high-speed data networks.  I'm not supposed to say I'm the systems engineer rolling out the UMTS field trial for Cingular in Atlanta.  But if I join the other company and get assigned to a competing program for Cingular, that's OK  That generally is not an issue which arises for staff engineers <as opposed to execs who need to sign non-compete clauses> .  Now, what happens in patent work?  For example, I'm volunteering or temping at a firm, helping out on prosecuting a patent application by Cingular on a wireless high-speed data network.  Now I go for an interview at a different patent firm.  What am I supposed to disclose or not disclose, either during the initial interview or (hopefully) when I receive an offer?   Obviously, I can't disclose details of the patent application.  Do I keep mum, because I'm not supposed to disclose that Cingular is applying for a patent on wireless high-speed data networks?  Or, to avoid any conflict, am I supposed to state that I'm working on a patent application for a wireless high-speed data network?   Am I supposed to disclose that Cingular is the existing client?  That way, I won't end up working on a competing patent application or for a competing client?   I haven't a clue what the procedure in IP is.
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Re: Appplying for jobs before receiving registrati
« Reply #7 on: Sep 23rd, 2006, 1:56am »
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How common is it to do volunteer work for an IP firm to get one's feet wet?  I know I've heard it suggested that it is better to get a paid job, if for no other reason than that the company feels they have to give you something worthwhile to do if they are paying you.
 
I do imagine that volunteering would open up all sorts of options in terms of scheduling.  For example, I'm seeking part time evening/weekend patent agent work while maintaining my day job.  I'm not sure how easy that will be to find, but I am not concerned with the monetary aspects.
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