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smgsmc
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Appplying for jobs before receiving registration
« on: Sep 21st, 2006, 7:34am »
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Hi.  I'd like opinions on my situation.  I passed the exam on Aug 15 and am on the Oct 6 list of people seeking registration.  According to other postings, I should receive my registration number towards the end of Oct. , assuming that no fellow cell mate from Sing-Sing rats me out.  I hadn't factored in an ~ 2 mo delay in my plans.  I spent the last month tieing up personal matters and networking to get leads.  I now have several.  I'm currently unemployed, and my benefits have run out.  Now the question.  A recruiter told me not to bother sending out resumes or trying to line up interviews until I get my actual registration number.  He told me that any resume or e-mail that starts "I passed the patent bar on Aug 15 and am expecting my registration in late Oct."  would have no credibility and would get trashed.  And, as the cliche goes, "You have only one chance to make a good first impression."   What do you think?  Should I flip burgers for a month?  Thanks.
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Re: Appplying for jobs before receiving registrati
« Reply #1 on: Sep 21st, 2006, 9:24am »
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 A recruiter told … that any resume or e-mail that starts "I passed  
  the patent bar on Aug 15 and am expecting my registration in late  
  Oct."  would have no credibility and would get trashed.  
 
I don’t see why that would be so.  It would be interesting to know the basis for that statement.  
 
A recent poster stated that he sent out 46 (I think that was the number) of resumes to law firms in his area on one day.  I would advise against a mass mailing.  By sending out a few cover letters and resumes each week, and making some phone calls, you may be able to build a bit of a network.  It is counterintuitive, but a paced job search may have better results that a mad rush.
 
Even if those individuals you contact have nothing to offer at this time, they may be able to recommend other contacts.  Then you can use the first contact person’s name, as in “Jane Practitioner suggested that I call you.”  Do NOT make any false claims about your relationship to Jane Practitioner, simply mention her as the person who referred you to the second contact person.  
 
Also, by incrementally making contacts you have the opportunity to modify your search approach.  Undoubtedly you have various experiences; you can choose which experiences / what expertise to emphasize or omit.  Also if you have any mistakes on your resume you are more likely to catch the errors over the course of a couple of months than in one quick proof reading.
 
If you send out a bunch of notes all at once, you will forgo these benefits.    
 
Good luck.
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 21st, 2006, 10:04am »
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smgsmc:
 
Have you thought about doing some voluntary work for a IP lawfirm in your area, which could guide you to reach some leads in addition to getting a practical experience whatever hours you are comfortable at least until you find your next employer?
 
Who knows the IP firm that you worked only for a week would offer you a position?
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 21st, 2006, 10:16am »
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on Sep 21st, 2006, 9:24am, Wiscagent wrote:
 A recruiter told … that any resume or e-mail that starts "I passed  
  the patent bar on Aug 15 and am expecting my registration in late  
  Oct."  would have no credibility and would get trashed.  
 
I don’t see why that would be so.  It would be interesting to know the basis for that statement.  
 
 
Good luck.

 
Thanks for the response.  The recruiter's reason was that, with a registration number in hand, a potential employer can look you up in the federal register and verify your credentials.  Also, there is a possibility (though small) that there can be a screwup with registration.  With a registration number in hand, that's not an issue that would come up.  Any way, that was his take.
 
Which does raise a question I've been meaning to ask.  Is putting people who have passed the exam on a probationary period, during which people can show just cause why you should not be registered, some obscure legal anachronism?  I can't imagine anyone reading each week through the roster of people applying for registration, and saying, "Hey, he was put away for 20 yr in Sing Sing and must have broken out."  Does anyone know if there have been cases of registration being refused?  Do other government jobs follow this procedure?
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Re: Appplying for jobs before receiving registrati
« Reply #4 on: Sep 21st, 2006, 10:35am »
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on Sep 21st, 2006, 10:04am, biopico wrote:
smgsmc:
 
Have you thought about doing some voluntary work for a IP lawfirm in your area, which could guide you to reach some leads in addition to getting a practical experience whatever hours you are comfortable at least until you find your next employer?
 
Who knows the IP firm that you worked only for a week would offer you a position?

 
 
Hi.  This is another issue that has confused me.  If I go to interviews while I'm doing volunteer (for experience or kicks or pocket change or whatever) work for one firm, my understanding is that I need to disclose the projects I'm working on.  Is this true? If so, this may create problems if there is conflict or potential conflict with jobs that the firm (that I'm interviewing with) may have...leading to another strike against me, in addition to my 0 experience.  Any thoughts here?   I'm not talking about experienced agents or attorneys being recruited by other firms, but novices like me trying to get my foot in the door without old baggage.
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