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florida
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Just once I want to see a job posting that says:
« on: Aug 17th, 2006, 10:42am »
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NO EXPERIENCE NECESSARY.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
Seriously, how is it that NO ONE is willing to train a guy.  I am smart.  I am a quick learner.  I think this is demonstrated by the fact that I have a Mechanical Engineering degree, I passed the patent bar, and I am a 3L at a good law school.  Yet, apparently this isn't enough to get anyone to invest a little time into training me.
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Re: Just once I want to see a job posting that say
« Reply #1 on: Aug 17th, 2006, 3:08pm »
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Go work for the patent office.
No experience is necessary.
Just do it.
I did it.
I ate humble pie ... mmm, humble pie.
After I did it ... a firm hired me ... mmm, more humble pie.
You can do it.
After you do it ... a firm will hire you.
So just do it.
Now go ... eat humble pie.
 
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Re: Just once I want to see a job posting that say
« Reply #2 on: Aug 17th, 2006, 5:24pm »
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Here's how a patent attorney in a law firm explained it to me.  $$ are all driven by billable hours.   From their experience, a person with zippo experience comes in at 50% efficiency.  That is, if an experienced attorney (or agent) can do the job in 1 hr, the beginner will take 2.  The law firm can't simply bill a client twice as much because his case has been assigned to someone who works twice as slow.  That means that the law firm has to eat the $$ (which is partly offset by a low starting salary).  Assuming the beginner is competent, his efficiency rises to 75% after one year and to 90% after the second year.   Hiring someone with no experience is a major investment, because a senior person's time is chewed up training the new guy and reviewing his work to make sure it's been done right.  If the new guy doesn't work out, a lot of time (=$$) has been wasted.  Better to let another law firm take that risk.  You need some special hook.  I'll be starting a job hunt in a month, so I'll find out whether I have one.
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Re: Just once I want to see a job posting that say
« Reply #3 on: Aug 17th, 2006, 5:30pm »
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on Aug 17th, 2006, 3:08pm, justdoit wrote:
Go work for the patent office.
No experience is necessary.
Just do it.
I did it.
I ate humble pie ... mmm, humble pie.
After I did it ... a firm hired me ... mmm, more humble pie.
You can do it.
After you do it ... a firm will hire you.
So just do it.
Now go ... eat humble pie.
 

 
 
One issue that frequently pops up in exams:  If a patent examiner leaves the patent office, he can't prosecute cases until after a year.  Am I interpreting the rule correctly?  So what do you do for that one year hold interval?  (Other than getting obese from too much humble pie).
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Re: Just once I want to see a job posting that say
« Reply #4 on: Aug 17th, 2006, 5:31pm »
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on Aug 17th, 2006, 3:08pm, justdoit wrote:
Go work for the patent office.
No experience is necessary.
Just do it.
I did it.
I ate humble pie ... mmm, humble pie.
After I did it ... a firm hired me ... mmm, more humble pie.
You can do it.
After you do it ... a firm will hire you.
So just do it.
Now go ... eat humble pie.
 

 
 
One issue that frequently pops up in exams:  If a patent examiner leaves the patent office, he can't prosecute cases until after a year.  Am I interpreting the rule correctly?  So what do you do for that one year hold interval?  (Other than getting obese from too much humble pie).
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