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jeff
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Re: Buying Longacre(2004) for $350...good deal?
« Reply #5 on: Jun 15th, 2006, 6:30am »
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on Jun 14th, 2006, 8:01pm, Wolfcastle wrote:
$350 for the Longacre course is definately worth it, heck $500 for the Longacre course is worth it as well.  The 2004 longacre course doesn't focus enogh on appeal and re-exam, so you'll need to study that a bit on your own.

thanks.  since I haven't started studying yet....what chapters cover appeal and re-exam?  Thanks
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Re: Buying Longacre(2004) for $350...good deal?
« Reply #6 on: Jun 15th, 2006, 10:46am »
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I used the 2004 kit for the test a month and a half ago...it worked fine.  You will, however, have to spent more time on the PCT process though.
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Re: Buying Longacre(2004) for $350...good deal?
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on Jun 15th, 2006, 10:46am, SciGuy wrote:
I used the 2004 kit for the test a month and a half ago...it worked fine.  You will, however, have to spent more time on the PCT process though.

any tips on this?
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Re: Buying Longacre(2004) for $350...good deal?
« Reply #8 on: Jun 16th, 2006, 7:45am »
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Hi Jeff.  Everyone has his own study techniques of course, and you'll get different pointers.  Here are some from me (physics background, no law).  (1) I suggest you go through the videos twice.  Longacre goes through the MPEP chapter by chapter in sequence.  Early chapters refer to material in later chapters, and many times I went "Huh, What's that?  I don't know what that is, and I don't see an explanation here."   For example, Chapt 1 mentions "interferences", but that topic is not covered until Chapt. 2300.  If you give the material a once over first, you'll know what topics will be covered later, and not get bogged down on them early on.  (2) Right at the start, he recommends that you stick to the videos, study guide, and test questions...and, with some exceptions, don't spend time reading the MPEP.  I don't think this advice holds true (at least for me, it didn't). There are mucho details buried in the MPEP that are essential to answer the questions.  Also, from the zillion posts...recent exams absolutely require proficiency in searching the electronic MPEP.
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Re: Buying Longacre(2004) for $350...good deal?
« Reply #9 on: Jun 17th, 2006, 1:29am »
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In my opinion, whether or not you should spend time reading the MPEP depends on how much total time you are going to spend studying. If you are planning on 50-100 hours, your best bet is probably just to follow Longacre. If you going to spend more time studying, you'll get diminishing returns from just listening to Longacre, so you should read the MPEP.
 
I found that Longacre's course is really good at getting you so that you can answer ~30+ questions in a section in about an hour and a half with reasonable certainty. Unfortunately, he doesn't really give pointers on searching the MPEP in electronic format. Its a good idea to spend a couple hours searching the MPEP in electronic format.
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