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Jonathan
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Re: foreigner / chance to take the exam and get jo
« Reply #10 on: Jun 10th, 2005, 8:02pm »
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I am not telling you what to do.  I am just commenting on qualifying to take the patent bar exam. But, no - you do not need to first get a job to take the patent bar exam.  
 
From Patento's previous message, it appears you may perhaps not have a correct visa to qualify as a non-American citizen to sit for the patent bar exam. I have no knowledge in this area, though and you should not necessarily take what is said on here as the last word.  
 
If you do apply to take the patent bar exam,  it may be worthwhile to first call the Office of Enrollment and Discipline to find out if your visa status is adequate.
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Re: foreigner / chance to take the exam and get jo
« Reply #11 on: Jun 11th, 2005, 2:18am »
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The rules allow registration of aliens when the immigration
status is not inconsistent with registration, and limited recognition
by the Director under circumstances over which the Director
has discretion.
 
Unlike state governments, the federal government can exercise
foreign policy within its decision of whom to register.  It
just is not clear from the rules exactly what the policy is.
You are going to have to get the PTO to determine when and if
you qualify for limited recognition.  Qualifying for registration
is less discretionary but probably more restrictive.
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Re: foreigner / chance to take the exam and get jo
« Reply #12 on: Jun 11th, 2005, 6:29am »
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Thanks guys for all the inputs.  
 
I have read a decision made by OED for a petitioner with Canadian Citizenship and working for a patent firm of US under TN visa.  It helps me understand a little bit more. The link is http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/sol/foia/oed/legal/legal11.pdf
 
patento, do you think it's possible for me to find a job in US using my previous experience of working as a patent agent in China. If the answer is yes, can you give some suggestions of what the firm would use me for?
 
To all,
And if I couldn't find patent related job in US, but I got a IT job in US under TN, would I be qualified to sit in the exam. In the above metioned decision, it says that TN visa means limited right of only working for one employer in a limited period, so if taking exam means I have chance to work for other employer and other field.
 
What is the job classfication of a patent agent's TN?
 
I appreciate for all the inputs.
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Re: foreigner / chance to take the exam and get jo
« Reply #13 on: Jun 13th, 2005, 12:09am »
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Just a complete guess here, but my instincts tell me that you would be qualified to sit in the exam regardless of the job for which you receive your TN.   Unlike Canada and the EU (and elsewhere), the USPTO doesn't require you to have any sort of job experience to sit for the exam.   But they are pretty picky about your educational experience.
 
So for me, the real question is how OED would handle your transcripts from China.  That is, would they equate your ME from China with an ME from the US?  To this question, I have no answer.  Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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Re: foreigner / chance to take the exam and get jo
« Reply #14 on: Jun 13th, 2005, 8:37am »
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Get your education evaluated  (see http://www.ierf.org/ ... there are many such organizations)  
 
Also, if your transcripts are not in English, get them translated. Send both evaluation and original transcripts (along with the translation ) to OED with the request to send the originals back.
 
Call OED (before you do any of the above), they will guide you through this.  
 
 
on Jun 13th, 2005, 12:09am, Anon wrote:
Just a complete guess here, but my instincts tell me that you would be qualified to sit in the exam regardless of the job for which you receive your TN.   Unlike Canada and the EU (and elsewhere), the USPTO doesn't require you to have any sort of job experience to sit for the exam.   But they are pretty picky about your educational experience.
 
So for me, the real question is how OED would handle your transcripts from China.  That is, would they equate your ME from China with an ME from the US?  To this question, I have no answer.  Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

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