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slog
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #955 on: May 20th, 2007, 10:32pm »
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Those of you coming in should check out the government accountability office (gao) report on the pto from 2005.  In it they explain how and why the pto has a lot of trouble getting people to work there past the two year probationary period.  The retention rates for the PTO are pretty dismal.  I've heard that it's been even worse since they started the training academy, but I'm not certain about that.  Anybody know?
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #956 on: May 21st, 2007, 9:11am »
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on May 20th, 2007, 10:32pm, slog wrote:
I've heard that it's been even worse since they started the training academy, but I'm not certain about that.  Anybody know?

 
Apparently, some of that is because college students are taking the job as an easy way to make money for eight months without working, while searching for the job they "really want."  So I'm sure that skews the numbers quite a bit.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #957 on: May 21st, 2007, 10:22pm »
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Could be, I guess... but google "problems at uspto" and you'll get a bunch of articles that seem to suggest the problem is more widespread.  In particular, I'm thinking of the one entitled "Patent Examiners Battle Stress" on FCW News.  See:
 
"Stern said that strained employee/manager relations at USPTO stem from managers who "don't respect the input and advice they get from their employees." A related cause is patent examiners' discontent with what they say are unreasonable production quotas that examiners must work overtime to meet. "This is a legal sweatshop here," Stern said. "The truth is we could do a better job with more time."
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #958 on: May 22nd, 2007, 3:31pm »
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on May 21st, 2007, 10:22pm, lsi wrote:
Could be, I guess... but google "problems at uspto" and you'll get a bunch of articles that seem to suggest the problem is more widespread.  In particular, I'm thinking of the one entitled "Patent Examiners Battle Stress" on FCW News.  See:
 
"Stern said that strained employee/manager relations at USPTO stem from managers who "don't respect the input and advice they get from their employees." A related cause is patent examiners' discontent with what they say are unreasonable production quotas that examiners must work overtime to meet. "This is a legal sweatshop here," Stern said. "The truth is we could do a better job with more time."

 
This is something I'm still not sure of.. Does "voluntary overtime" mean you're working unpaid overtime?
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #959 on: May 22nd, 2007, 4:15pm »
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Yes - Voluntary overtime is unpaid overtime
 
GS-5 and GS-7's are barred from working voluntary overtime
 
GS-9 and up are allowed to work voluntary overtime if they wish
 
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