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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #880 on: Mar 14th, 2007, 8:30pm »
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on Mar 14th, 2007, 6:14am, mandejapan wrote:
Buckaroo Banzai, You mentioned that "Supposedly my application went to the hiring coordinators a few days ago for them to look at."  How did you find out that your application was already forwarded to the hiring managers/SPEs on the referral list already? I interviewed at the PTO in mid-February, but didn't fill out the online application for the right job announcement until February 23rd. I filled out one on January 31 too based on a SPEs recommendation, but it was an application for the wrong job announcement and because of glitches with their new system it got rejected. I've been told that my application from Feb.23 though is complete, good to go, and I meet the qualifications so it should show up on the referral list, but I'm not sure if that has been forwarded to supervisors yet. I don't think it has b/c I have a friend who interviewed about the same time as me, but he filled out the right application by January 31, and he received a formal offer about 2 weeks ago, about the same day that his online application showed up on the hiring managers/supervisors referral list.  
 
So to answer your question, based on my friend's experience, it shouldn't be much longer after your application/name shows up on the referral list to the hiring managers that you should be receiving an email saying something along these lines:
 
"Your names have come up on a referral list from USA Jobs and we would like to reccomend you for employment in Technology Center ****X." And then it will request that you fill out those additional SF and OF security forms to fax in within 48 hours. And then you should have a formal offer within a few days after you send in those forms if everything is good.  

 
I found out by calling around and generally making a nuisance of myself, mainly because I twice got a notice that I had to fill out the candidate questionnaire, despite the fact that I had already filled it out.  I ended up calling the OPM, who told me I was on the list.  I don't know if my being tenacious had anything to do with it, but I got informal notification this past Monday (3/12) -- I should start in the April 16 class, assuming the Request for Hire is authorized by the Director (though I assume that's just a formality), and the HR office gets my official transcripts.  
 
I think the referral list is wayyy behind.  My application was submitted on February 12, but when I called to check up on things on 2/28, they still had not received the first list from the system.  Things seem to be rolling now, though.
 
I'm stoked.  I'll be a *little* nervous until I get the formal offer, though.  Smiley
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #881 on: Mar 15th, 2007, 5:34am »
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Thanks for sharing Buckaroo.  That's helpful.  So since you submitted your online application on Feb. 12 and didn't get the informal notification email telling you to submit those additional forms until Mar. 12, that means it takes about 1 month for our online applications to start showing up on the hiring managers' referral list. I think that timing sounds about right currently b/c my friend had submitted his online application on like Feb. 1-2 and he got his notification email on Feb. 28 (wednesday). He then faxed in his forms within the 48hrs, and had a formal offer over the phone the following Tuesday(Mar.6). So, if you faxed in your forms this past monday, you should expect a phone call by no later than early next week...
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #882 on: Mar 15th, 2007, 6:26am »
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What are people's experiencies/opinions on starting as a GS-9 vs. GS-7? I once heard that the burn out rate for those who start at GS-9 is much higher. Is it very difficult to start at a GS-9 when one has no prior examining experience? With the new, more extensive/time-consuming Patent Training Academy are people that are starting at GS-9s still able to make the 6 month accelerated promotion to GS-11? Or is that rare?
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #883 on: Mar 15th, 2007, 9:33am »
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on Mar 15th, 2007, 5:34am, mandejapan wrote:
So, if you faxed in your forms this past monday, you should expect a phone call by no later than early next week...

If everything works perfectly that'd be reasonable. That step took about a month for me.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #884 on: Mar 15th, 2007, 12:13pm »
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on Mar 15th, 2007, 9:33am, mk1023 wrote:

If everything works perfectly that'd be reasonable. That step took about a month for me.

 
Wow. The step from when you faxed in your SF/OF forms until when they gave you the formal offer took a full month?  That was when they were under the JARS system though, and you were also working everything out to get your transcript adjudicated so you can work as an EE?  
 
What's crazy though is for my friend who received the formal offer over the phone on March 6, they wanted to bring him on board to start the March 19 Patent Training Academy. That means they were going to process all of his stuff in less than 2 weeks! He chose to go with the April start date though.
 
Another question: What's the rule on overtime? How long must you work at PTO before you can start working and getting paid for OT? I heard there is a new rule where you can't claim OT until after you finish the PTA, so 8 months after you start then? Thanks...
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