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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #75 on: Apr 16th, 2005, 11:01pm »
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As to the other questions:
 
I'm in TC 2100.  There really isn't any "average qualification" for new examiners in my workgroup that I've seen.  For instance, take the group I went through training with.  Two were towards the later parts of their career--one guy told me he's just wanting a job he can be secure in for a few more years till retirement.  Most just had a bachelors.  I was probably the only one with a masters.  Some had worked for a few years already.  Some just graduated college or maybe had at most two years of experience at most before getting hired at the PTO.  
 
I wouldn't go too much by the JARS score thing unless you've had what most people would consider actual full time job experience and many years of it.  10 years of experience would get you placed at the GS11 level.  I myself scored as a GS-11 based on what I put in, but got offered to be hired on either as a GS9 step 1 based on me having a masters or GS7, max step based on just by a bachelors and my grades, ignoring my masters degree.  I had a lot of experience since I worked a lot of part time jobs, had my own IT business for a while, and co-oped while in school, which was why I scored high on the JARS test, but I was considered a new graduate, so didn't get offered anything more than GS9.  I chose to go with GS9 and actually lower pay since it's at a lower step as it would allow me to move up in the ranks faster in the long run.  Others choose to take a lower grade level than they can start out in as it allows them more room to learn the job before they're expected to contribute as many counts per bi-week.
 
For the interview process, like I said before, if you do the job fair thing, the turn around time is fast.  I called in the beginning of the week to set up the interview at the job fair, had the interview the same week.  My office mate mailed in his resume and they got back to him about 9 months after he had already gotten hired on via going through the job fair.  After the first interview, the second interview was about two weeks after that.  My second interview was over the phone--most people I talked to had their second one over the phone also.  My first one I drove over 8 hours to do the interview on site.  They didn't fly me.  They also don't offer relocation reimbursment any more.  I pretty much got a job offer right after the second interview, but they wouldn't actually say it and make it official till a few weeks afterwards--HR and their slow paperwork.  After you got your offer, you're given a list of dates you can choose to start your training and your job.  Could be anywhere from as soon as two weeks to up to 6 months.  In my opinion, it really does help if you go interview on site as it shows them you're more interested in getting hired.  I was a wreak at my first interview since I had only gotten about two hours of sleep the night before driving up to do the interview--insomnia, but I guess the guy I interviewed with saw I was really interested in being hired as I was willing to drive such a long distance just for a 20 minutes interview.  They won't pay for you to come out here.
 
 
I'll go into some of the basics of the count system now:
The way the count system works is you get your first count for your first action.  Then you get your second count when the application either gets approved or abandoned or they do an RCE.  So after you do a final, you don't get your second count.  Any other action you do after your first action, you don't get a count for, not even your final one.  
 
How many counts you're expected to do each biweek depends on the art unit you're in and your grade level.  Each art unit has a different expectancy level.  The higher you are in grade though, the more counts you're expected to do.  In my unit for example, a GS7 does around 3.7 or 4, I can't remember which.  A GS9 does 4.25 and GS11 does maybe 4.75 each bi-week.  
 
Time for bed now.  Sorry if any of what I wrote is garbled.  I'm sleepy and don't have time to double check my writing.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #76 on: Apr 18th, 2005, 8:36am »
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I, also, want to thank you New Examiner.
 
I have a question for any other examiners. Has anybody actually been hired through JARS?  How long did it take for them to call you?
 
According to this:
 
http://showcase.monstertrak.monster.com/cgi-bin/new/showcase.pl?page=stu _show&emp_id=edlkcc
 
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How long after submitting a resume should candidates expect to hear from you?
 
Typically 1-4 weeks, depending on what the hiring quota is for the area of your expertise. We hold weekly hiring sessions for supervisors to review paper resumes and JARS (hiring database) applications, plus the JARS applications are available 24/7 for supervisors to review from their workstations.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #77 on: Apr 20th, 2005, 4:19pm »
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Yes, I was hired through JARS. I heard back from them about a week after sending it electronically.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #78 on: Apr 25th, 2005, 8:28pm »
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How did you hear back from them - did they call you or contact you through the mail? I also applied through JARS a couple of weeks ago...
 
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #79 on: Apr 27th, 2005, 5:34am »
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I also applied through JARS.  My original application was in June 2004, I first heard back from the office about a job fair in Feb. 2005, then got an offer in April 2005 to start in July of 2005.  So that is a solid 12 months for the entire process.
 
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