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JakeMondatta
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #605 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 9:17am »
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Thanks for taking the time to answer my q's, by the way.  Your answers are thoughtful and helpful.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #606 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 12:09pm »
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Even if it is stressful in trying to meet a production rate in USPTO, I am wondering whether it could ever be compared to what people with PhDs are suffering in Biomedical Sciences excluding myself though.  In fact, it is cruel.
 
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chazinla
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #607 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 12:29pm »
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I have heard that that job market is pretty terrible for biologists.  Itís not great for research scientists in general either.  I work for a large national lab doing applied physics research.  Here itís common for people to be post-docs for 5-7 yrs before they get permanent positions.  You meet a lot of disgruntled and embittered 35 year olds and everybody seems to be pretty worried about the future.  Bear in mind that these are all people who graduated with PhDs from the top 10 institutions in physics and have decades worth of well-regarded publications.  A typical work week here is 6 days long, most people arrive from 9:30-10am and stay until at least 9pm at night.  Itís definitely a grind.
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mikey
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #608 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 7:08pm »
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on Sep 14th, 2006, 9:03am, Isaac wrote:
Generally speaking the hours for a 1st year examiner are not an issue. †Examiners at G-7 and below are not allowed to work unpaid overtime and are expected to do whatever production is required in 40 hours a week.
 

 
Rigghhht ... and i have some swampland in Florida for sale and i'm sure you'll be interested!  
 
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mikey
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #609 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 7:42pm »
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on Sep 14th, 2006, 6:53am, Isaac wrote:
I don't think either of those tells the full story.
 
A significant amount of the turnover is from people who leave during their first year or so because they find out they don't like the job, that they cannot do the job at the required production rate, or that the relentless quest for production is too stressful.

 
But the truth of that fact (and i'm not denying it) should not mask the fact that a significant percentage of people who are past their first year are also leaving. The official figures bear out this statement. I see it happening all around me, and i have some opinions about that which i will not share here.
 
Its just that you have 1000 new hires a year into a pool of just over 4000 examiners which makes what you are saying true.
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