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mike philips
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #295 on: Apr 28th, 2006, 12:56am »
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no overtime pay if you gs-7  Embarassed
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« Reply #296 on: Apr 28th, 2006, 1:07am »
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on Apr 28th, 2006, 12:56am, mike philips wrote:
no overtime pay if you gs-7  Embarassed

 
If true this is a relatively new policy.  GS-7 and below cannot work voluntary, unpaid overtime, meaning that they cannot work more than 40 hours per week to try to make their product goals, but their supervisor can authorize them to work paid overtime for extra production.  At least they could when I was there.
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« Reply #297 on: Apr 28th, 2006, 6:37am »
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on Apr 27th, 2006, 4:42pm, daven wrote:

 
Can someone really go up there and bust their butt to get promoted in a timely fashion?  It seems with all the hiring going on they could lose track of who you are, let alone remember to promote you within six months.

 
You'll get your promotion if you are at production at the end of 6 months. However, you probably won't be at full production at that time - few are. Its probably hard to do in the 8-month training, if you are going through that.
 
The production quotas are supposed to be weighted different for the probationary period, but the way things go varies by supervisor. Its hard to explain the reality, you just have to experience it. Basically a more realistic number is 8-9 months, imo.  
 
My thoughts are that doing 8 months of training, getting the promotion, and then hitting the TC with the higher production requirements and having to learn to do things how your actual supervisor or primary wants them might be very difficult. Better be GS-9 at that so you can do voluntary overtime. No joke.
 
 
 
 
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« Reply #298 on: Apr 28th, 2006, 6:40am »
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on Apr 28th, 2006, 6:37am, guest wrote:

 
You'll get your promotion if you are at production at the end of 6 months. However, you probably won't be at full production at that time - few are. Its probably hard to do in the 8-month training, if you are going through that.
 
The production quotas are supposed to be weighted different for the probationary period, but the way things go varies by supervisor. Its hard to explain the reality, you just have to experience it. Basically a more realistic number is 8-9 months, imo.  
 
My thoughts are that doing 8 months of training, getting the promotion, and then hitting the TC with the higher production requirements and having to learn to do things how your actual supervisor or primary wants them might be very difficult. Better be GS-9 at that so you can do voluntary overtime. No joke.
 

 
i meant to say unpaid overtime at the end of that post.
 
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« Reply #299 on: Apr 28th, 2006, 8:07am »
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Also when planning on your raise after promotion, do not assume that you will be going from something like a
GS-7 step 10 to a GS-9 step 10.  If you are at a step 10, you'll almost certainly end up at relatively low step in the next GS level after your promotion.    
 
Of course with each jump in GS level comes a corresponding increase in required production.
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