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mike smith
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #225 on: Jan 31st, 2006, 7:57pm »
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I have heard that they are now doing an extensive (and I'm sure expensive) training program for new examiners that's 8 months!!
 
Is this correct? And is there anyone here that knows about the quality of this new program? Are you actually learning a lot?
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #226 on: Jan 31st, 2006, 8:38pm »
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My experience is that examiners who do shoddy work pay for their folly in short order.  If you write a bad first office action, it won't hold up and you'll get to continue issuing non final rejections until you either allow the case or you write a good rejection.   In particular, new examiners are usually scrutinized very closely by their primary or supervisor who won't let them allow cases with shoddy work.  
 
Further, the counting system used to measure your productivity only gives credit for the first non final.  If you write additional non finals very often, you are not going to make production without working some voluntary overtime.
 
Without exception, the examiners I worked with were very conscientious, but they are all on a rigid production schedule.   In some cases examiners could do a more complete search and could write more detailed office actions given more time, but every bit of time spent on one case comes out of the time for something else.   For example, an examiner could take the time to locate art for things described in the spec but not in the claims so that the practitioner would be warned away from using that stuff to amend, but generallly there is no time for that kind of stuff.
 
As examiners become more efficient so that they can do an acceptable job in less time, many examiners ramp up their production as opposed to spending more time on a given case because higher production puts more money in their pockets, allows them to work with less stress, and looks good on during evaluation time.
 
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Orientation at the PTO
« Reply #227 on: Feb 2nd, 2006, 8:47am »
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I'm new to the forum. With a joining date of Feb. 21 rapidly approaching, I'd like to get an idea of what to expect at the orientation. An orientation packet delivered a bunch of forms that need to be turned in on the first day. Other than that, there's no news on how the training is going to be structured. Should be looking forward to more info in the mail?
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #228 on: Feb 2nd, 2006, 8:55am »
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You really don't need any more info.   Other than filling out the paper work they sent you, there is absolutely no need to prepare for anything other than putting in a full day at the office.   Bring a pen.
 
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #229 on: Feb 2nd, 2006, 10:28am »
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I'll be working as a patent examiner later during the year.  What is the environment like?  Is it quiet?  Do we get our own offices or are we stuffed into cubicles?  Also, what's a good area to live in to save money and not get killed?
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