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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #1035 on: Jun 21st, 2007, 7:05pm »
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Come on now, gh.  I believe that a bacholers in engineering (even if you're not on the top of your class) shows technical competance.  You don't have to know your art well- you learn it; however to learn it you will need a technical mind, spacial skills, work well under pressure, etc.  I think an engineering degree shows this.  I will agree with you however in that this job is mostly legal work.
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #1036 on: Jun 21st, 2007, 7:09pm »
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mandejapan,
 
The lady from the Recruitment Center (or is it Hiring Center) says she will put me in the 9/17 class. I have no idea which TC I'll be in. But hopefully, it has something to do with my background: EE or CS.
 
Again as I said before, I'm a bit concerned about not having been asked to submit the Security Forms (SF-85 or SF-86). My experience tells me that it can take a long time to process these background investigation, but ONLY after the SF forms are received by USPTO.
 
If I don't receive a written official offer by say 8/1, I might have trouble in getting an apartment in the area plus RELOCATION !
 
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« Reply #1037 on: Jun 21st, 2007, 7:09pm »
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on Jun 20th, 2007, 5:41pm, guestexam wrote:

 
 
 
Others just do better in environments where there is more hand-holding than at the PTO.
 
 
You probably won't be surprised to learn that there are many attorneys working as examiners in different tech centers - everything from EE to CS to biotech.  

 
I've worked at both a high-end law firm and at the PTO.  While I wouldn't say there is a lot of "hand-holding" in either environment, I would definitely say there's more in the PTO.
 
There are attorneys at the PTO, but most of them aren't exactly at the top of their game.  It's really hard to find a job at a DC law firm unless you went to a very good law school and have a strong academic record.  If you have these things, PTO experience isn't that important.  If you graduated from a marginal law school and your grades were mediocre, the PTO is a good place to get some IP experience.  A few years there won't get you into a high-end firm, but might give you an edge when trying to get a job at the lower end ones.
 
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« Reply #1038 on: Jun 21st, 2007, 7:19pm »
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on Jun 21st, 2007, 7:05pm, 2Btabby wrote:
Come on now, gh.  I believe that a bacholers in engineering (even if you're not on the top of your class) shows technical competance.  You don't have to know your art well- you learn it; however to learn it you will need a technical mind, spacial skills, work well under pressure, etc.  I think an engineering degree shows this.  I will agree with you however in that this job is mostly legal work.

 
I guess there are varying degrees of competence.  
 
My point is that you don’t really have to be a strong technical person to work at the PTO.  In fact, in some cases I think that understanding the technical stuff well might slow down your productivity.
 
As to class rank and education level… one question:
 
If you had to choose to fly in one of two planes and you knew that one had been designed by a professor of aerospace engineering from MIT and the other was a 2.0 GPA student who took 5 yrs to graduate with a bachelor’s from Ball State… which would you choose?
 
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Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #1039 on: Jun 21st, 2007, 7:22pm »
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mande and applied:
 
Almost everybody got their 85 back after orientation (to modify because of errors).  I didn't get mine in until maybe one week into training.   Some people had to do theirs over several times... they're very particular.  In fact... one co-worker of mine just finalized his earlier this week.
 
If you two have any questions about my first 4 weeks at the PTA, I'd be happy to answer them.
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