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(Message started by: brendanmutton on Dec 5th, 2007, 11:02am)

Title: Help... i have an idea...
Post by brendanmutton on Dec 5th, 2007, 11:02am
I am 17 years old from the UK and i have an idea of a product. It is a step further of a product that currently made but im not expecting to make big bucks from it.

I have designs in my head but not any on PC yet. Basically i am happy with selling or making a contract with a manufacture to make the products, they can sell the product as their name but i get some sort of comission.

It would be nice if i could get the product made by a factory so i can sell it myself as my own company but being 17 with college and so on i don't have the time.

I hope i have come to the right place, im looking for some guidence of where to go, who to talk to, people that can help my get my idea investigated and hopefully created.

Thank you.

Title: Re: Help... i have an idea...
Post by brendanmutton on Dec 8th, 2007, 8:57am
I know i am very young but i think we all need to start somewhere it really would be nice if i could get some help here... thank you

Title: Re: Help... i have an idea...
Post by TataBoxInhibitor on Dec 8th, 2007, 12:12pm
I guess the first step, IMO, is to make sure the invention is more than a mere concept and 'reduce it to practice."  If you need an engineer or software engineer to reduce your invention to practice, make sure you have the proper agreements in place, so your invention remains "hidden."

Maybe before the step above, I would search all prior publications, patents, other references, to make sure what I am doing is actually new, so as to not waste any money or time.


Regards,


Title: Re: Help... i have an idea...
Post by brendanmutton on Dec 9th, 2007, 3:58am
Thanks for the kind reply.

Yesturday i found nearly all the components i need to make it. Well i mean so i can make a trail product myself to put together and see were it goes.

Well i have searched the product many of times on google ebay and so on.

There is a similar lower version of what im planning on making but its the fact mine has alot more in it and in my eyes a much better construction.

im trying to think of an example without giving my idea.

I have contacted a few manufactures in china if the will allow me to buy some trail products from them to help design my first run of the product.

Is anyone one here or know of anyone who can guide me fully through all i need to do, such as searching if the product exists and the next stages. I know im young and i have alot to learn in this area.

Title: Re: Help... i have an idea...
Post by TataBoxInhibitor on Dec 9th, 2007, 10:53am
Yes.  Do not disclose any pertinent info in an open forum.  You really must search patent databases, whether the USPTO, EPO or WIPO, to get an idea of where your art is.

There are search companies out there who do this kind of thing.  I cannot recommend any, the ones I have received search report from have been inadequate.  There may be others here who will respond otherwise.


Regards,


Title: Re: Help... i have an idea...
Post by DJoshEsq on Dec 10th, 2007, 8:28pm
If you are serious, you should contact an attorney to file a patent application or to conduct a novelty search.

Typically, I recommend filing a provisional patent application and then taking a year to conduct a novelty search and test the market and see if manufacturing brings about any changes to the invention.  


Title: Re: Help... i have an idea...
Post by TataBoxInhibitor on Dec 11th, 2007, 5:39am

on 12/10/07 at 20:28:23, DJoshEsq wrote:
If you are serious, you should contact an attorney to file a patent application or to conduct a novelty search.

Typically, I recommend filing a provisional patent application and then taking a year to conduct a novelty search and test the market and see if manufacturing brings about any changes to the invention.  



Why do a provisional?  That is what 102(b) is for.   Also, most patent attorneys draft the claims first, as such, the cost for drafting a provisional verses non-provisional is essentially the same.  I would just file a non-provisional and save the filing fees.  Just my opinion.

Regards,


Title: Re: Help... i have an idea...
Post by hzzj on Dec 22nd, 2007, 3:27am
If you are sure of your ideas,patent it !then show it to the world and let the world judge it.

Title: Re: Help... i have an idea...
Post by biopico on Dec 22nd, 2007, 7:33pm

on 12/10/07 at 20:28:23, DJoshEsq wrote:
If you are serious, you should contact an attorney to file a patent application or to conduct a novelty search.

Typically, I recommend filing a provisional patent application and then taking a year to conduct a novelty search and test the market and see if manufacturing brings about any changes to the invention.  


It depends.  If it is in biotech, I agree.  If not, I would file a non-provisional.




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