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« Reply #10 on: Jun 23rd, 2007, 9:14am »
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I may be going off on a tangent here, but there has been talk of the provisional application as not being an adequate document in which to claim priority from a later filed PCT application.   Has anyone experienced this situation?
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« Reply #11 on: Jun 24th, 2007, 10:25am »
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When I was in-house, we did it all the time.  At the end of the PPA year, we filed US and PCT and claimed priority.
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Re: A preliminary provisional filing?
« Reply #12 on: Jun 25th, 2007, 3:21pm »
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on Jun 23rd, 2007, 9:14am, TataBoxInhibitor wrote:
I may be going off on a tangent here, but there has been talk of the provisional application as not being an adequate document in which to claim priority from a later filed PCT application.   Has anyone experienced this situation?

If you mean that the adequacy of the provisional application is insufficient to provide a meaningful priority date, I'm sure it happens all the time, but I have yet to see that adjudicated and I haven't experienced it.
 
If you mean that countries other than the US won't recognize a provision application as a "prior application" under the Paris Convention and therefore disqualified as a priority document, my understanding is that such was the case originally.  The fix was that the USPTO now allows one to convert a provisional application to a real application.  Accordingly, a provisional application now has some slim chance of becoming a patent and therefore suffices as a "prior application" on which you can claim priority.  Currently, I'm not aware of any jurisdiction that doesn't accept a provisional application as a legitimate priority document.
 
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Re: A preliminary provisional filing?
« Reply #13 on: Jun 25th, 2007, 4:10pm »
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on Jun 23rd, 2007, 9:14am, TataBoxInhibitor wrote:
I may be going off on a tangent here, but there has been talk of the provisional application as not being an adequate document in which to claim priority from a later filed PCT application. Has anyone experienced this situation?

 
I've been told that a provisional without claims might not be adequate, but I don't have any first hand experience of such.
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« Reply #14 on: Jun 25th, 2007, 7:01pm »
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Please check the following:
 
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/1800_1828.htm#sect18 28
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