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(Message started by: JimIvey on Jun 15th, 2006, 1:08pm)

Title: Spam in the topics....
Post by JimIvey on Jun 15th, 2006, 1:08pm
Looks like someone wrote a really cool script.  Perhaps YaBB can benefit from one of those call-and-answer verifications involving a smeared image of text and a text-entry box.

I wonder if there's a newer version of YaBB with that as an option.....

Regards.

P.S.  Took a quick look at the YaBB forum and found this: http://www.yabbforum.com/community/YaBB.pl?num=1141918796  Don't see any mention of a "enter this smeared text" verification though.  That would be nice, or something as effective.

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by Forum Admin on Jun 17th, 2006, 3:14pm
Where did you find the script?

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by Jonathan on Jun 17th, 2006, 4:12pm

Perhaps limiting the ability to post to members only is another option to consider.

I would think YABB probably already has that functionality..

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by JimIvey on Jun 19th, 2006, 12:24pm

on 06/17/06 at 15:14:22, Forum Admin wrote:
Where did you find the script?

I didn't.  I'm just guessing that the posts come from a script that navigates YaBBB topics from the uniformity of the posts and the tendancy to find the same topics -- usually recently active ones -- in which to post.  I have a little bit of experience with similar scripts but for legit purposes -- e.g., scraping for and downloading files uploaded to Yahoo! groups.  I consider them legit because they use my real id/pwd combo to get in and I must be a member to the group if the group so requires.  

In the boardmod.org link, search for "antibot" and you'll see exactly the thing in the xonder.de link.  Tres kewl!

Regards.

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by JSonnabend on Jun 20th, 2006, 7:26am
Heck, while the admin is upgrading YaBB, why not junk it altogether in favor of a more sophisticated but still free BB?  I'd love to be able to subscribe to threads, for instance.

- Jeff

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by Inquiring_Mind on Aug 31st, 2006, 11:11am
I'm trying to post a rather long message to one of the forums, but I keep getting a "spam" error, even though my message contains no links.  I'm trying to cut and past the message in from Word because it's long and I've gotten burned in the past when I type in a long question and then I get an error and when I hit "back," my whole message is gone.  I thought it might be something about symbols or Word, but I removed all the symbols (section sign) and tried saving as text and pasting that, but neither worked.  Does anyone know how to cut and paste without triggering the spam filter?

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by Jonathan on Aug 31st, 2006, 11:23am

Don't have an answer to your question but try splitting your post into two to three posts.

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by Inquiring_Mind on Aug 31st, 2006, 12:17pm
Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't work.  I can't imagine what the problem is, but then I'm virtually computer illiterate so I guess that's what I get.

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by JimIvey on Aug 31st, 2006, 1:21pm
Because your post is gone when you go "back", I assume you're using Internet Explorer instead of a more full-featured browser like Mozilla's Firefox.  That would suggest some variety of the Windows operating system -- probably XP.

I don't use Windows much, but somewhere there should be a Notepad program.  Any simple text editor will work.  Notepad is just simple and should be in just about any Windows installation.

I'd suggest typing your post in there -- or any text editor.  Then, you can copy and paste into the message composition form here.  If it's too big, you can go "back" and your post will still be in the text editor.  Then, you can paste just part of it and create a second post for the remaining part.  You can keep trying until it all gets posted.

Regards.

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by Inquiring_Mind on Sep 1st, 2006, 9:02am
Thanks again for the suggestion, but that also didn't work.  I also tried saving in Notepad with the four different "encoding" modes available, but none of those worked.  Finally, I typed in the entire message into the form online, and it *still* gave me the spam error message.  This really limits the usefulness of this forum for me, if I can't even post questions or comments, as well as being a very frustrating waste of time.  I really wish this could be fixed, but I'm giving up for now.

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by JimIvey on Sep 1st, 2006, 1:17pm
Hmmm....  You can post here, so you can post.  There must be something in the message you're trying to post that appears to be off-limits for new users.  

For what it's worth, using Notepad wasn't supposed to make your posts more acceptable to this forum but to prevent loss of work when you go "back".  If it didn't work for that, there must be something seriously wrong with your computer.

If it were me, I'd e-mail the post to the forum administrator and ask what's wrong with the message.  Either the administrator will be able to tell you or the administrator might recognize a bug in recent mods to quash the spam.

Regards.

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by Inquiring_Mind on Sep 5th, 2006, 9:51am
    Great idea...  (time passes... frustrated would-be user looks around... and around)
    Here's another stupid question:  where might I be able to find the forum administrator's email address?  I looked through the "Help" section and didn't see it.  I realize it's probably right in front of me, but I can't find it.  And I appreciate that there might be something wrong with my computer, but this is really the only site I've had trouble on, and it doesn't seem like XP and Explorer is some kind of bizarre or unworthy combination.  Unless maybe the site is set up to penalize people who just use computers as a tool and don't care to learn the intricacies or to take a stand in computer politics...  Nah, that would never happen.

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by Inquiring_Mind on Sep 5th, 2006, 10:01am
Okay--never mind.  I just found it on the Member list.  I'll ask if they might also want to put it on the Help page, for people who need help.

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by JimIvey on Sep 5th, 2006, 1:22pm

on 09/05/06 at 09:51:06, Inquiring_Mind wrote:
where might I be able to find the forum administrator's email address?

Look above at a post by "Forum Admin".  Below his user id is a little envelope icon.  Click on that.  Or, click on his user id ("Forum Admin") and there's probably a link to send him e-mail.

And, there's no gender bias here -- the Forum Admin is, in fact, male.


on 09/05/06 at 09:51:06, Inquiring_Mind wrote:
And I appreciate that there might be something wrong with my computer, but this is really the only site I've had trouble on, and it doesn't seem like XP and Explorer is some kind of bizarre or unworthy combination.  Unless maybe the site is set up to penalize people who just use computers as a tool and don't care to learn the intricacies or to take a stand in computer politics...  Nah, that would never happen.

I don't believe this site is designed to punish anyone.  As we've discussed somewhere in here, this forum is a bit simple in that it doesn't save your form data and restore it when you have an error in your post.  It's not the only software to fail to do that; there was a time when no web-based forms did that.

In addition to this site being based on somewhat simple software, you're using a web browser that isn't designed to compensate for that -- e.g., by saving your form data and restoring it upon clicking "back".  Other browsers do that, so many of us don't miss the error trapping absent in this software.

I doubt there are any conspiracies against your particular set up -- there would be too small an audience leftover to give any site even just a remote chance of becoming sufficiently popular to be interesting.  People are aware of some of the shortcomings you're experiencing and, from what I understand, fixes are in the works.  But remember, a lot of this software is written, maintained, and administered by people with day jobs working in their spare time, often for free.  Frankly, I'm amazed that it all works as well as it does.

Regards

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by JimIvey on Apr 5th, 2007, 10:58am
Just a quick note.  I don't know what Jeff and Mr. Admin experience here, but I'm killing about 1-2 spam messages per day here.  Some days, none.  Others, as many as 5 or more.  Today I killed one advertising software that automatically posts to forums -- image that!  I wonder what forums people would post to....  ;-)

Thanks to Admin, they don't include links.  But they're showing up and they're annoying -- and they're gone.  My apologies to the Forums I don't monitor -- hopefully Jeff and Mr. Admin are keeping those clean.

Just wanted to let everyone know it's working....  manual cleaning, that is.

Regards.

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by Forum Admin on Apr 5th, 2007, 12:18pm
I check all of the postings 2 or 3 times a day.  Between the work of the moderators and myself I am sure that we catch 99% of it.

The weird thing is that spam has to be worthless to those that post it because it is deleted so quickly and no links are permitted.

Thanks for your help.

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by JSonnabend on Apr 5th, 2007, 12:21pm
I'm killing about 10-12 a day in the Trademark and Copyright Forums, and a smattering in other forums.

- Jeff

Title: Re: Spam in the topics....
Post by JimIvey on Apr 5th, 2007, 5:06pm

on 04/05/07 at 12:18:24, Forum Admin wrote:
The weird thing is that spam has to be worthless to those that post it because it is deleted so quickly and no links are permitted.

Looking at the auto-poster advertised in a killed spam post today, I don't think the authors ever check the content of their posts.  I think they just broadcast to forums everywhere and never follow up to see how the posts look.  Oh well....

Regards.



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