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Re: News vs. editorial commentary
« Reply #5 on: Sep 9th, 2004, 8:02am »
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Mr. Clark,  
 
On second thought, I must concede that my statement might be thought of as extreme and thus unfair. To be more precise what I should have written is "a bias against IPR owners", instead of a "bias against IPR."  
 
The RIAA is an unsympathetic IPR owner - reviled within the Open Source community alongside SCO.  
 
As an IPR professional, it is painful for me to stand by and watch people use arguments about the RIAA's outdated business model as justification for eviserating the RIAA's ability to enforce their copyrights.  
 
Killing the Goliath like this only means that he will fall on David and crush him too... and then there's nothing stopping the Philistines.  
 
In acting to secure their own copyright interests, the RIAA might be seen in this forum as securing the interests of all copyright owners.  
 
Because we all know that in an odd, twisted, parallel universe sort of way, when the RIAA acts to enforce and protect their copyrights they are indirectly strengthening agreements like the GPL, Creative Commons, as well as securing the rights of all sorts of  people with original creativity.  
 
Strong, unpopular words because it appears as support for the evil RIAA - but from my (biased) point of view, this is a position equally in support of the independent artists who may one day eventually drive the RIAA out of business through alternative forms of licensing made possible by strong copyright.  
 
"Hoist by their own petard," I believe is what conservative writers would call it.  
 
Strong, enforceable IPR lads, this is what we should all be striving for. Even of the owner is an unsympathetic one.  
 
In my opinion which I am grateful for the opportunity to express.  
 
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Re: News vs. editorial commentary
« Reply #6 on: Sep 9th, 2004, 12:54pm »
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My main points were/are:
 
Editorial comment is being commingled with news -- not always in a clearly delimited manner.  The examples I have in mind specifically are the editor-selected titles of the news pieces.  I believe one particularly troubling one was something like "Makers of Pirate Ships Not Liable for Piracy".  I've addressed that title elsewhere.
 
At times, the opinion on the "news" space significantly exceeds the objective news in terms of numbers of words and sometimes even display space.  IMHO, that makes the "news" section more of an "opinion" section, leaving the site without an opinion-free front-page news section.  It's not a matter of right or wrong but rather of what adds value to the site.
 
Lastly, and this is strictly from my own subjective experience as a user, the lack of a "reply" button near the opinions expressed in the news section gives the feeling of a bully pulpit.  If I disagree with the opinion, I have to start a new thread elsewhere and post it a couple of layers deep in the user interface.  After I do that, the front page still looks as if the opinion is unchallenged.
 
This is just my subjective and humbly submitted opinion that this portal would be better if the opinions were placed directly in the forums where they would most certainly spark interesting and educational debate rather than stated authoritatively on the front page.
 
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Re: News vs. editorial commentary
« Reply #7 on: Sep 9th, 2004, 6:24pm »
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on Sep 9th, 2004, 8:02am, eric stasik wrote:
Mr. Clark,  
 
On second thought, I must concede that my statement might be thought of as extreme and thus unfair. To be more precise what I should have written is "a bias against IPR owners", instead of a "bias against IPR."  
 
Strong, enforceable IPR lads, this is what we should all be striving for. Even of the owner is an unsympathetic one.  
 
In my opinion which I am grateful for the opportunity to express.  
 
Regards,  
 
eric stasik

 
I appreciate your taking the time to respond here.  One of the reasons why I don't object to the editorials on the front page is that you are willing to participate in discussion about them.
 
I consider myself to be pro IPR.  I certainly don't buy into the "information want to be free" and "the man is stealing from the artists anyway" arguments.  Nevertheless, there are limits to what measures I'm willing to take to protect IPR just as there are limits to how much power I'm willing to give the police to fight crime.  Just as not being in favor allowing the police to rubber house suspects does not mean I'm pro crime, not being willing to outlaw P2P does not mean that I'm against copyright protection.    
 
Your view seems to be that there are people who will go to extreme lenghts to protect intellectual property and then there are the pirate supporters.
 
Also, I did not see any of the "Slashdot" arguments you deride in the article where your editorial pointed out that it takes a village to infringe a copyright.  
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: News vs. editorial commentary
« Reply #8 on: Sep 9th, 2004, 7:03pm »
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Hmm. This article is very entertaining:
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/09/altnet_vs_riaa/
 
While I agree with Mr. Clark's position that copyright owners can/should be able to pursue copyright infringers to the full extent of the law (yes, even the evil RIAA/MPAA), what happens when in pursuit of those infringers (or in attempts to slow them down) results in infringement on another's IP (patent)?
 
Your Thoughts?
 
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Re: News vs. editorial commentary
« Reply #9 on: Sep 9th, 2004, 8:15pm »
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I don't see a controversy.  If they are infringing a patent,
they will have to cease doing so or they'll have to negotiate
a deal with the patent holder.
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